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::Please stop blaspheming. The article is correct, and since you say that it isn't, I can say with 95% success that you are a liberal, unChristian, unAmerican, and a mass murderer. I can say with 106% certainty that you are an avid practitioner of [[liberal deceit]].--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 21:42, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
::Please stop blaspheming. The article is correct, and since you say that it isn't, I can say with 95% success that you are a liberal, unChristian, unAmerican, and a mass murderer. I can say with 106% certainty that you are an avid practitioner of [[liberal deceit]].--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 21:42, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
:::You are only making false conclusions.  Take a step back, man. We don't deceive people, you only decieve yourself. [[User:TomUp|TomUp]] 11:13, 2 March 2013 (EST)
 
:::You are only making false conclusions.  Take a step back, man. We don't deceive people, you only decieve yourself. [[User:TomUp|TomUp]] 11:13, 2 March 2013 (EST)
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::::Well, TrekDude’s right. [[User:Eger|Eger]] ([[User talk:Eger|talk]]) 17:27, 11 March 2021 (EST)
    
This is offencive. Your right though. i am a mass murderer, you just haven't herd of me because you don't watch the so called "liberal media" (it realy isn't) whcih reports on all the genocide stuff --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
This is offencive. Your right though. i am a mass murderer, you just haven't herd of me because you don't watch the so called "liberal media" (it realy isn't) whcih reports on all the genocide stuff --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (EST)
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::::Exactly. The unborn are not a race of people. Not all abortion is genocidal. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:35, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::::Exactly. The unborn are not a race of people. Not all abortion is genocidal. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:35, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:::::No, the unborn ''are a group of people.'' Genocide is still genocide if the people in question are unborn, homosexual, or Jews. It doesn't have to be ethnic. Genocide can still be included here. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:20, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:::::No, the unborn ''are a group of people.'' Genocide is still genocide if the people in question are unborn, homosexual, or Jews. It doesn't have to be ethnic. Genocide can still be included here. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:20, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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== Authoritarianism is not a synonym for liberalism. Not all authoritarian drill instuctors are liberals for example. Francisco Franco was not a liberal. Liberal is not synonymous with dictator ==
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Authoritarianism is not a synonym for liberalism. Not all very authoritarian drill instructors are liberals for example,
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Some conservative principals in schools can be authoritarian. So authoritarianism is not synonymous with liberalism.
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[[Francisco Franco]], a dictator, was not a liberal. In some ways, he was traditional for example. Conservapedia's article says he was supported by the Catholic church. Liberal is not synonymous with dictator.
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I removed the claim that Franco was a liberal. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:50, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
      
== Denmark/Sweden/France/California are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Stop pretending that liberalism equals fascism or communism ==
 
== Denmark/Sweden/France/California are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Stop pretending that liberalism equals fascism or communism ==
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::::And let's do use the entire world's libraries for decades and decades and decades and use the world's printed encyclopedias and not pretend they don't exist for the sake of ideological fantasizing. Liberalism is not Nazism or communism.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:30, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::::And let's do use the entire world's libraries for decades and decades and decades and use the world's printed encyclopedias and not pretend they don't exist for the sake of ideological fantasizing. Liberalism is not Nazism or communism.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:30, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
 
I updated the article and documented the communists moving closer to capitalism and the American liberals being more sympathetic to communism. I also created a [[liberal intolerance]] section of the article and near the lead of the article I put how liberals were limiting free speech. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:51, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
 
I updated the article and documented the communists moving closer to capitalism and the American liberals being more sympathetic to communism. I also created a [[liberal intolerance]] section of the article and near the lead of the article I put how liberals were limiting free speech. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:51, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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== Democrat does not equal liberal. Historically, many Democrats have not been liberals. Not all American slave owners were liberal. George Washington owned slaves. ==
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Democrat does not equal liberal. Historically, many Democrats have not been liberals. Not all American slave owners were liberal. George Washington owned slaves. Was George Washington an uber liberal?
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I removed the material about liberals advocating slavery. Please have some historical context like the French Revolution advocating the equality of man, etc. etc.  I realize that people can be contradictory and Thomas Jefferson espoused some [[Age of Enlightenment]] ideas, but also owned slaves. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:14, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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=== Stop pretending we are living in the 1800s or early 1900s. Stop pretending that current Democrats are largely members of the Klu Klux Klan. Make historical distinctions ===
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Stop pretending we are living in the 1800s or early 1900s. Stop pretending that current Democrats are largely members of the Klu Klux Klan.
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Please make historical distinctions. I fixed the article so that historical distinctions are made. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
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== King George III was not a liberal. Opposite of French Revolution.  Attila the Hun was born before liberalism was an ideology.  Liberalism is bad but not a synonym of bad ==
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King George III was not a liberal. He no doubt believed in the divine right of kings which is opposite of the French Revolution.  There are plenty of overly authoritarian modern liberals. The are plenty of corrupt liberals. But just because King George III was authoritarian and corrupt, does not mean he was a liberal.  The British could argue that the high taxes on the American colonies were a result of the Brits paying for the [[French and Indian War]], but that is a whole other discussion. The bottom line is that not all historical figures who opposed the United States are necessarily liberals.
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Attila the Hun was born before liberalism was an ideology. Let's stop pretending that liberalism is not a specific political ideology that arose in a specific period of time. Was Cain of Cain and Abel fame a liberal?  Liberalism is bad but not a synonym for the word bad. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
      
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::Good. I'll try to find a picture of her with a booger hanging out of her nose. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 23:44, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::Good. I'll try to find a picture of her with a booger hanging out of her nose. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 23:44, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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== The truth hurts. Fabrications and political fantasizing doesn't. Keep the article free from nonsense ==
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== Liberal intolerance article greatly needs expansion - especially in light of recent events ==
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I cleaned up the article.  
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The [[liberal intolerance]] article greatly needs to be expanded - especially in light of things that have happened since Trump appeared as a political candidate and was elected (violent demonstrations, violence used to prevent speakers on campuses, etc. etc.).  Right now, the [[liberal intolerance]] article is merely one sentence.  
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Before I cleaned up the article, it had a significant amount of nonsense like:
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If the [[Liberal intolerance]] article was expanded, the [[liberal]] article could have a section on liberal intolerance.
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- [[Attila the Hun]] being a liberal.  
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The liberal article is a popular article. But it turned into a mess and I cleaned it up as I indicated on the talk page.
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- [[Francisco Franco]] being a liberal.  
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The liberal article could be much better. Modern liberalism is often intolerant of conservatives/conservatism. The way the [[liberal]] article was trying to make this point was poorly done. Slapping the word Stalinism, etc. on the article doesn't cut the mustard. A section on liberal intolerance with a link to a well-supported article would cut the mustard. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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- Trying to make communism/fascism synonymous with liberalism.  
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:I started the article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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::In that article what's needed is not just a laundry list of instances, but an in depth anaylsis as to what basic beliefs liberals hold that they feel justify censoring, silencing, intimidating, harassing, lawbreaking, using acts of violence up to and including extermination againsts persons they deem non-liberal. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 16:34, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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There appears to be a strong desire to make liberalism worse than it already is. Please resists this temptation. The truth hurts, but fabrications and political fantasizing do not. Please keep the article free from nonsense.
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:::RobS, Go for it!!!! It could be a very informative and popular article if it was done right. If it was helpful to readers, you could have a very small section of examples which gave a link to a separate article giving a laundry list such as [[Examples of liberal intolerance]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:39, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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I have created some articles that have made liberals very angry.  The articles are very popular and some have received hundreds of thousands of views. I endeavored to make the articles truthful and well-supported. I used plenty of footnotes. I repeatedly asked liberals to point out factual errors in the articles. Please use the same amount of due diligence in this article.
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== Liberalism and communism ==
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And if you make a claim in the article. Adequately explain it. Do not make some big and bold claim that most people are not aware of and think a footnote is going to cut it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:40, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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It might be a good idea to consider adding this to the article: [http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/05/09/california-may-allow-communists-work-openly-state-government/ the California State Assembly passed a bill to allow communists to openly work in government positions]. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:29, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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== Liberal intolerance article greatly needs expansion - especially in light of recent events ==
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The [[liberal intolerance]] article greatly needs to be expanded - especially in light of things that have happened since Trump appeared as a political candidate and was elected (violent demonstrations, violence used to prevent speakers on campuses, etc. etc.).  Right now, the [[liberal intolerance]] article is merely one sentence.
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== Vandalism ==
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If the [[Liberal intolerance]] article was expanded, the [[liberal]] article could have a section on liberal intolerance.
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I checked the "difference" on that last attempt of vandalism by Click Your Heels, even though I don't usually, and it may have been one of the funnier vandalisms here, if a bit poorly attempted.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 20:28, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
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:[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=1350635&oldid=1350476 I can see why]. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:14, 4 June 2017 (EDT)
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The liberal article is a popular article. But it turned into a mess and I cleaned it up as I indicated on the talk page.
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The liberal article could be much better. Modern liberalism is often intolerant of conservatives/conservatism. The way the [[liberal]] article was trying to make this point was poorly done. Slapping the word Stalinism, etc. on the article doesn't cut the mustard. A section on liberal intolerance with a link to a well-supported article would cut the mustard. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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== All liberals are secular? ==
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:I started the article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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This seems to suggest that all American liberals are secular, which is nonsense. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 15:27, April 18, 2022 (EDT)
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::In that article what's needed is not just a laundry list of instances, but an in depth anaylsis as to what basic beliefs liberals hold that they feel justify censoring, silencing, intimidating, harassing, lawbreaking, using acts of violence up to and including extermination againsts persons they deem non-liberal. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 16:34, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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:It's true, God does not require a high IQ to be a believer or Christian. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 15:44, April 18, 2022 (EDT)
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::True. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 15:46, April 18, 2022 (EDT)
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