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:::The Bible itself has multiple testaments to its all-or-nothing standing as regards the truth. For one thing, the phrase rendered in [[English]] "His Mercy endureth forever" actually refers ''not'' to mercy as we understand it, but to [[God]]'s Word being His Bond. God is a Being of His Word. If God says that He will do a thing, He does it, and if He says that he will see a thing done, He will see it done. And as a corollary to that, if God says that a thing occurred, then it occurred--and if God went into detail, then those details are matters of fact.
:::The Bible itself has multiple testaments to its all-or-nothing standing as regards the truth. For one thing, the phrase rendered in [[English]] "His Mercy endureth forever" actually refers ''not'' to mercy as we understand it, but to [[God]]'s Word being His Bond. God is a Being of His Word. If God says that He will do a thing, He does it, and if He says that he will see a thing done, He will see it done. And as a corollary to that, if God says that a thing occurred, then it occurred--and if God went into detail, then those details are matters of fact.
:::Therefore, if God said that "such-a-man lived so-many years and begat such-a-son," then you can bank on it. And if God gives us a long string of years-at-birth-of-sons, then you can reliably add them up--and you can be sure that only so much time has passed since the beginning ''of'' time--at least by an earthly clock, which is the only sort of clock that need matter to us.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:27, 6 July 2007 (EDT)
:::Therefore, if God said that "such-a-man lived so-many years and begat such-a-son," then you can bank on it. And if God gives us a long string of years-at-birth-of-sons, then you can reliably add them up--and you can be sure that only so much time has passed since the beginning ''of'' time--at least by an earthly clock, which is the only sort of clock that need matter to us.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:27, 6 July 2007 (EDT)
::::It just seems like a rather shaky way to interpret the Bible, is all. Genesis can be true without being literal, and you don't have to fight against all of this seemingly contrary evidence. If He could make the universe however he wanted, why would God have made it to look like something other than what He has layed down in the Bible? You may dissagree with conclusions of traditional scientists, but you can't deny that it sure looks like the earth is billions of years old, and God would have known this when he layed down the scripture. It does explain why people try so hard to compare 21st century science to a 10th century BC unattributed doccupment.
::::And all of this really goes back to TheisticEvolution's question: who cares? Must you declare your belief in a young earth before you ask God to redeem your sins? Can you go to heaven if you believe the scientific explanation of creation? In the scheme of things this is the much more important question, and the one that gets overlooked because of all the disagreement over the rest. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 15:41, 6 July 2007 (EDT)