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→Use of "Opponents of the US" phrase: the problem
*As a former Sysop here, John, one might think your language would be a bit more temperate. If you could save 100 lives, or 1000, by torturing someone, just one person, would you do it? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 15:22, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
*As a former Sysop here, John, one might think your language would be a bit more temperate. If you could save 100 lives, or 1000, by torturing someone, just one person, would you do it? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 15:22, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
::What does that have to do with being an opponent of the US? Your response is irrelevant to the question I posed. I'm not talking about whether torture is effective, or whether it should be done. I'm talking about whether it's anti-American to hold views that differ from yours.--[[User:John|John]] 15:28, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
::What does that have to do with being an opponent of the US? Your response is irrelevant to the question I posed. I'm not talking about whether torture is effective, or whether it should be done. I'm talking about whether it's anti-American to hold views that differ from yours.--[[User:John|John]] 15:28, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
The problem with this article is, and remains, no one can cite a credible source by name that says the US is using waterboarding as an interogation technique. All the charges amount to rumor and innuendo. The only citations that have ever been offered, anywhere, worldwide, stem from (a) escaped or released internees, or (b) anonymous sources attributed to being CIA employees. And as we all know as a result of the [[Valerie Plame]] Affair (1) CIA employees can become involved in [[partisan]] politcs (see [http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Valerie_Plame.php Valerie Plame Wilson Campaign contibutions)]and (2) it is illegal to ever disclose their names. Hence, the citations can never be attributed. See the new book, [http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Americas-Enemies-Within-CIA/dp/1596985100 ''Sabotage: America's Enemies Within the CIA,'']Rowan Scarborough, Regnery Publishing, Inc. (July 16, 2007). ISBN-10: 1596985100. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:36, 23 July 2007 (EDT)