Difference between revisions of "Talk:United Kingdom"

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'Great Britain' redirects automatically to 'United Kingdom.' This is incorrect as the two terms are not interchangeable. The former is strictly the name of the Island which comprises the Mainland of England, Scotland and Wales, whereas the United Kingdom, is the name of a country, who's territory extends over many islands, including Northern Ireland. There should be a seperate article for 'Great Britain.'

It is true that this difference needs to be made clear in the entry -- but there seems little sense in having a separate entry for two such overlapping entities! Boethius 11:04, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

That's a fair point I suppose! Consider it done : )

I see that "Great Britain" still redirects here.--British_cons (talk) 06:40, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland also redirects here, which is the entity before Ireland got its independence. I put the redirect there for now to simply allow articles like War of 1812 to link to other articles, but someone who knows a lot on the history of those countries should fix it. GodlessLiberal 23:03, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

There are now separate articles for the Kingdom of Great Britain (the island is at Great Britain) and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. If someone has time it might be useful to have articles for pre-Union England, Scotland and Ireland. I think it would be useful for all of them to have a notice at the top pointing to this article as the present day successor state. Mrjimbob 19:34, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Currency

Not changed the article text but I'm 99% sure that while English money is legal tender in Scotland, NI et al the reverse isn't true - can anyone confirm this & if so amend the article appropriately? Tracy C Copeland 13:24, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

The paragraph, as it is, is ok and correct - you could expand it if you wanted to, but the situation's a little complex:

Bank of England coins are legal tender throughout the UK.
Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales (and possibly Channel Islands & Isle of Man).
Channel Islands & Isle of Man notes and coins are only legal tender those jurisdictions.
Scottish & NI notes aren't legal tender anywhere.
So no notes are legal tender in Scotland & NI at all.

But "legal tender" doesn't really mean anything. All the forms of currency are perfectly acceptable anywhere in the UK - you'd have a hard time convincing a court that you had a right not to accept Scottish notes (for payment of debt) just because they aren't "legal tender". I got this information from here, here and here --JamesK 20:10, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

The Bank of England doesn't produce coins, that's the Royal Mint.
Only in England and Wales does the concept of 'legal tender' exist. The Channel Islands and Isle of Man are not part of the UK.
Yes.
As above, Under Scots Law and Northern Irish law there is a broader concept of what is 'legal tender' as it doesn't technically exist under their law.
Scottish and Northern Irish notes are usually accepted thoughtout the United Kingdom, although sometimes an explanation is required.

Mrjimbob 13:14, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Anthem

Wales is the only country of the UK to have an official national anthem. Scotland hasn't ("Flower of Scotland" is definitely not official), England hasn't, and "God Save the Queen" is not even the official anthem of the UK. Dorpfeld 15:30, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Article has a superfluous "The" in the title.

Have no problems with the article but why is the title "The United Kingdom" rather than "United Kingdom"? After all there are not articles for "The People's Republic of China" or "The United States of America".

Perhaps someone could move the page to "United Kingdom"...? It would then be more consistent with other names, easier to search for, and easier to link to. --Jeremiah4-22 19:21, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

Since "United Kingdom" redirects to "The United Kingdom" searching and linking shouldn't be a problem but I agree it should probably be changed for consistency. --JamesK 10:02, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

Darts?

I live in the U.K. and last time i looked darts was not a popular sport.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nick227 (talk)

Yes, it is. Most local pubs have a dart board with many having darts teams. A quick look at the top darts players shows the vasy majority are British. stevendavy

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 ::::The [[United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland]] also redirects here, which is the entity before Ireland got its independence. I put the redirect there for now to simply allow articles like [[War of 1812]] to link to other articles, but someone who knows a lot on the history of those countries should fix it. [[User:GodlessLiberal|GodlessLiberal]] 23:03, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
+::::: There are now separate articles for the [[Kingdom of Great Britain]] (the island is at [[Great Britain]]) and the [[United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland]]. If someone has time it might be useful to have articles for pre-Union [[Kingdom of England|England]], [[Kingdom of Scotland|Scotland]] and [[Kingdom of Ireland|Ireland]]. I think it would be useful for all of them to have a notice at the top pointing to this article as the present day successor state. [[User:Mrjimbob|Mrjimbob]] 19:34, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
 ==Currency==