Talk:United States Presidential Election, 2008

I think that if Rudy Giuliani ran, then New York would be in play.

He'll carry New York if he burns through a lot of money, but he'll lose the South to Mitt Romney no matter what he does (being a thrice-married gun grabber and all). McCain is sinking like a rock. Teresita 14:52, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Overhaul

That looked like a very decent analysis by aschlafly but it wasn't sourced, wasn't verifiable, and was highly opinonated. I replaced it with the considerably more vanilla page with the dates of the election, the primary season, and the names of the declared major party candidates. If someone wanted to add the third party and independent candidates and any other facts regarding the 08 election, that would be great. Myk 08:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I may be wrong, but I think that most of the third party candidates aren't determined until the year of the election. If you know any further information about them, though, by all means add them. You make a very good point about their inclusion in this page. MountainDew 23:11, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Third party candidate is kind of a misnomer. Prominent third party candidates a la Perot and Nader will decided some time late this year or early next year to declare as they don't have to worry about primaries. Also, of course, any disgruntled Democrats or Republicans might wait until after the primaries. However, there are many parties that have candidates, just no real recognition. Prohibition Party, Greens, Libertarians, Reforms... then there's lesser known independents like David Koch and a few others. I just don't want to put in the work and then be told that it's trivial and that we're trying to remain concise. Myk 23:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

What I meant was that, at least in 2004, the Constitution, Libertarian, and Green Parties hadn't nominated by this point. Once we know them, by all means they should be included. MountainDew 23:21, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

And what I meant was that there are several declared candidates at this point, for those parties, and that if someone wanted to do the work, they should be listed. I don't want to do the work because it will probably just get deleted. Myk 23:24, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I'd back you up in any edit wars/disputes. MountainDew 23:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Unsourced information

Andy, I didn't delete improperly. Just because it was your information doesn't mean it was improper. The battle ground states section is an exceptionally simplistic analysis of how elections are waged. There are no sources referencing your analysis. There are places for original research and places for fact. This is the latter. Myk 17:24, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Move

I think this article and its talk page should be moved to 2008 United States Presidential Election. Presidents get elected in other countries, too! :) Greg 15:58, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

I oppose this suggestion at this time, because it would make the title almost twice as long without avoiding any real confusion.--Aschlafly 16:03, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

However, changing it to United States presidential election, 2008 would help maintain consistency throughout the site (see Category:United_States_presidential_elections). Jinkas 16:15, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

• Well if that is a problem, I can always do away with that category name. What would you suggest in its stead? Or would you prefer me to choose it? --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 22:10, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Greg, how many other countries' election articles have you written? When we have too many for election to refer to America, we'll consider your suggestion again. This is basically an American encyclopedia, not an international one like Wikipedia. We'll disambiguate, when and if the title becomes ambiguous. --Ed Poor ^Talk 15:54, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

Greg has been permablocked in any event. DanH 15:57, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

"First Election without incumbants since 1928?"

I thought that in 1952 there were no incumbants. Neither Republican, Dwight D. Eisenhower, nor Democrat, Adlai Stevenson, was an incumbant. If this is true then it's really the first election since 1956. -Additioner 17:40, 6 September 2007 (EDT)

Oh, now I see. Alben Barkley ran, but didn't get the Democratic nomination. Thanks for clearing that up on the page. -Additioner 14:37, 14 September 2007 (EDT)