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:::Chippeterson, ironically, I created an article on [[Pete Domenici]] this yesterday (had no idea he was going to retire). Since you seem to be knowledgeably regarding his senate career it would be great if you could help expand it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 00:31, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Chippeterson, ironically, I created an article on [[Pete Domenici]] this yesterday (had no idea he was going to retire). Since you seem to be knowledgeably regarding his senate career it would be great if you could help expand it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 00:31, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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==Since the discussion board is blocked...==
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=="Terrorist" on Wikipedia's "do not use list"==
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Does any Republican candidate meet anyone's approval here?  Who are we supposed to be backing? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 00:23, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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You probably already know this... but, Wikipedia has the term "[[terrorist]]" on their "do not use list" because it has "negative connotations."[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Words_to_avoid#Extremist.2C_terrorist_and_freedom_fighter] --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 16:40, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
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:Tash, nowhere in that page does it say "do not use" the word. It's a "word to avoid" list, also saying that "freedom fighter" is a term to avoid. And since WP has the goal of being neutral, they can't go around calling people terrorists - neutrality comes at an insanely impersonal price. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Ħøĵímαζĥŏήğ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 14:41, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
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*What "discussion board" is blocked? --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 00:38, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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*Either way, the policy to avoid calling murderers what they actually are, is what is insane.  It is part of the liberal [[deceit]] there at WP, knowing that their mainly young and MSM conditioned users will substitute what most of the media use:  "Suicide Bomber" instead of "Homicide Bomber", "Freedom Fighter" instead of "Terrorist" and "Insurgents" instead of "Invading Army". --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 15:56, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
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:The debate topics...you used to be able to add new questions there. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 23:54, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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*If you could possible provide links when talking about places here, it is always of help. No one has mentioned it to me, and if I was the Admin who locked it, have long forgotten doing so.  --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 02:39, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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::Hey TK, I've heard you raise this issue before. I'm not exactly sure I follow though. Could you explain why you refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers, and why insurgents should be referred to as the invading army? Thanks for the clarification.--[[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] 12:16, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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*The term "homicide bomber" refers to their primary motive. Using a term like "suicide bomber" tends to obscure the motive and focus on the consequence to themselves, not the consequences to other, innocent people.
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*Furthermore, the word ''insurgent'' presupposes that those fighting against the Iraqi civil government are primarily native-born Iraqis. The overwhelming weight of the evidence shows that that is ''not'' the case. Foreigners from many different Muslim lands have poured into Iraq trying to knock out its current civil government--because terrorists know that a stable government ensuring popular support would give the lie to their habitual dismissal of democracy and cost them dearly in popular, and ultimately in monetary, support. With the result that they would no longer have enough safe havens.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 13:19, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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::That's an interesting take on the use of the term homicide bomber, though I'm inclined to keep using the term suicide bomber. In essence, all bombers intend to kill others; they are, by their very definition, homicidal. What differentiates these bombers is that they take their own lives, and so we call them suicide bombers (knowing that homicide is an inherent consequence of the term "bomber"). As for insurgents, that's interesting and noteworthy. And I've read a lot of supporting evidence for your argument, as most of the insurgents come from Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria.--[[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] 14:19, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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:::Which is why the word ''insurgent'' is not the proper word. They are not insurgents at all; they are foreign enemy spies, saboteurs, and ''agents provocateurs''.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:35, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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::::Exactly. The [[Allied Powers|allies]] during WWII were not insurgents, though the "free French" might have been considered such by the Germans. [[User:LikelySuspect|LikelySuspect]] 15:50, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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==Being new here...==
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What exactly is the protocol when you want to edit an article that is locked? [[User:Denerick|Denerick]] 19:20, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
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: Raise the issue on the corresponding talk page.  Often we unlock pages.  Pages were only locked to combat vandalism.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:36, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
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==No puzzle over flag pin==
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It's disingenuous to say, "ABC Puzzles Over 'Obsession' With U.S. Flag Pins". It was, of course, ABC's own [[Advocacy journalism|advocacy journalist]] that started the whole media circus about Obama and the flag.
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*An eagle-eyed reporter for the ABC affiliate in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, noticed something missing from Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., lapels. "You don't have the American flag pin on. Is that a fashion statement?" the reporter asked, at the end of a brief interview with Obama on Wednesday. "Those have been on politicians since Sept. 12, 2001." [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3690000&page=1]
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Can anyone think this wasn't orchestrated? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:11, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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-raises hand- [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 12:27, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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:Well, now, if you suppose that the ABC reporter was asking a non-scripted question, then you have to ask yourself why no reporter from a [[mainstream media]] organ has ever before asked such a to-the-point question of a [[liberal]] politician.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 13:23, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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==BBC disrespects Queen with deceitful editing==
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The BBC edited a film [[trailer]] out of sequence to make it seem that the Queen stormed out of a photo shoot. Peter Fincher defended the edits (which had misrepresented the sequence of events), as "human error".  [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6896892.stm]
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Another example of [[liberal deceit]] which - when discovered - is simply excused as an "error [made by] young, untrained" television workers. The BBC claimed it had no idea it had been edited out of sequence.
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I think they simply got caught. They wanted to embarrass the Queen, it when it came out that the story was a fake, they certainly weren't going to admit that it was deliberate. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:25, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
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*The flip side of that is when they want to skewer a Conservative, like asking President Clinton what he meant by saying "It depends on what the definition of the word 'is' is." that would be explained away as coming from a ''vast right-wing conspiracy'' never, not ever the possibility of it being a legitimate question! --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 03:36, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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This is just typical of the Liberal institution that is the British Broadcasting Corporation. It is known for employing a disproportionate number of homosexuals than other broadcasters, and its Liberal world view is well known. The real injustice about this is the British taxpayer has to pay these pseudo intellectuals to allow them to continue pushing the homosexual and Liberal agenda on all of us. [[User:Boru|Boru]] 11:40, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
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*Right you are, Boru!  The BBC is very much a part of the world-wide [[Homosexual Conspiracy]], and daily presents all kinds of perversions as "normal" to the public.  This is yet another ploy to "normalize" or relativize perversion.  --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 12:44, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
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== Burma Protest Picture ==
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Has the Burma protest spread through space to Seattle and through time to 1he 1990s? 'Cause the picture you have in the article is from a WTO protest in Seattle, not Rangoon. Trusworthy, indeed. [[User:BurmaShave|BurmaShave]] 11:50, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
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:So, ''at some other place'' you have become so desperate, so bored that you create accounts to post about a picture? Muhahaha!  Complain to the AP, part of the liberal MSM which is full of [[deceit]], who included it with one of their dispatches!  LOL! Godspeed to you '''TROLL'''!
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::Good work on unveiling this troll TK. We need more sysops like you round here. [[User:Boru|Boru]] 07:34, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
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