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Talk:Suppression of alternatives to evolution (view source)
Revision as of 03:18, November 17, 2007
, 03:18, November 17, 2007→Misquoting Lewotin: No evidence of misquoting, but evidence of unsubstantiated claims of misquoting.
Dr. Lewontin has co-authored papers with Dr. Stephen Jay Gould. Gould has made similar statements about being misquoted.</blockquote>
Dr. Lewontin has co-authored papers with Dr. Stephen Jay Gould. Gould has made similar statements about being misquoted.</blockquote>
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:"''First of all you didn't include the entire passage.''": And you didn't include anything about why the omitted parts change anything.
:"''Secondly, ... that doesn't mean [Lewontin] disagrees with its methods or conclusions.''": So? Is there anything to indicate that he does? Does that change the relevance of the quote in any way?
:"''Unfortunately, creationist like to misquote prominent scientist ...''": Do you have any substantiation that this is something that they "like" doing? If so, please provide it, or apologise for the slur.
:I find that most charges of misquoting are unfounded, and I've checked out more than a few such claims of misquoting.
:"''...to make it look like they are in there camp...''": That would be a bit self-defeating! Why make it look like an evolutionist is a creationist? The impact of a quote pointing out something favourable to creationists is due to it being made ''by an evolutionist''! No, this claim is also unfounded.
:"''or "spilling the beans" on the evil, atheistic world view of scientist''": If creationists think of it as "evil", it is in the theological sense that all (including Christians) are sinners. They generally don't consider scientists as more "evil" than anybody else.
:You really must be grasping at straws to claim, per your heading of this section, that Lewontin is being misquoted in the article by producing (supposed) evidence that he was misquoted by others in ''different'' quotes!
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:18, 16 November 2007 (EST)