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→Legitimate views: Augustine was talking about the present, not the past.
I asked you above to give an example where lack of purpose, implies a uniform distribution. [[User:Order|Order]] 03:57, 18 December 2007 (EST)
I asked you above to give an example where lack of purpose, implies a uniform distribution. [[User:Order|Order]] 03:57, 18 December 2007 (EST)
: Yes, Augustine was talking about people "talking nonsense" about things such as you listed, or anything that non-Christians could easily see for themselves. But there's two points to note. First, he wasn't saying that every Christian who has views different to non-Christians is "talking nonsense"; he was only criticising the ones who ''were'' talking nonsense. To put me in that category you have to show that I'm talking nonsense, not that I'm taking a view that you disagree with. Second, he was talking about things that the non-Christians could clearly see for themselves. He wasn't talking about the distant past, which they couldn't see.
: The biblical creation account is also consistent on a literal level.
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:52, 18 December 2007 (EST)
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