Talk:Conservative values

Should be something regarding the importance of faith/religion here. Also, family.--RossC 10:49, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Come on would you, there is no way you can say that Conservative Values cure mental illness, I'm deleteing it. 15:01, TinkyWinky 15:02, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

I meant the statement, not the article, anyway I just did, revert it if you like, but that won't make the lack of refs any less conspicuous. TinkyWinky 15:04, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Maybe you'd want to tell me how you can make such bizzare claims without a proper source. Go see the CP commandment about references. TinkyWinky 15:07, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Your spelling is atrocious, and no one said that conservative values "cure" mental illness. But they help.--Aschlafly 15:08, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Perhaps I should utilise less colloquial vernaculars from my native idiom henceforth, Mr. Schlafly. You have only slightly diminished the gravity of your claims (yes you authored this article). Claiming that conservative values "help" mental illness is still a sufficiently serious claim to warrant a demand for references. TinkyWinky 15:14, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

This isn't funny any more, I will get rid of that statement for the sake of accuracy if someone does not find sources. You are breaking the commandment about sourcing statements. You're sysops. Set a good e*ample MichaelC 16:10, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Andy, in that new list, "mental disorders" at the end is somewhat redundant, given that most everything else in the list meets that description. Perhaps you might say "other mental disorders". More importantly, just like on the addiction page, you should cite the research that you're referring to in drawing those conclusions. I did some searching but couldn't find anything; however, I imagine that you must have something that you haven't had the chance to add to the article yet. Murray 22:38, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

I'm not sure that addiction, anxiety and depression are classified as "mental disorders," but I'm make your change. As to support, we've seen some already in a few news items on the front page about correlations between mental problems or stress and political views. This entry is new today and I welcome citations, and will add some myself. Thanks.--Aschlafly 23:35, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

I'm sure they are, they're all in the DSM (addiction = dependence). Unless you meant, as far as anxiety and depression are concerned, symptoms that don't meet diagnostic criteria. As to support, I will look forward to your citations. As I mentioned I searched but did not find any research on the topic, supportive or otherwise. Murray 23:56, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

How about "to help us understand the benefits of traditional family values"? WilliamH 23:52, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't think "conservative values" are synonymous with "traditional family values," although there is some overlap. Someone from a divorced home, or abandoned altogether (as famous conservative orphans were), can just as easily benefit from conservative values.--Aschlafly 00:02, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

I agree, I actually meant to add it in the part at the bottom, where it lists some of the results for embracing conservative values. Basically to say that one of the good things it does is lead us to other good things (if possible). WilliamH 00:17, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

A Change maybe

This "giving primacy to God's creation and God's law in judging all worldly matters" Should perhaps be removed as not all conservatives are christian/deists. AdenJ 06:24, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Insanity

I've tried twice to remove an unsourced statement. Twice Karajou put it back. It appears that you would all violate the commandments to shove your CPOV (C for crap) into my face. You are unadulterated hypocrites. I found it hard to believe that you were as bad as the site which must not be named claimed, until I saw this blatant hypocrisy. I find it hard to believe also that all the other editors(mindless drones?) totally igonored his problem. The best you can hope for is an entry on RW:WIGO. Screw You! MichaelC 17:12, 16 April 2008 (EDT)