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:::Incidentally, you touched on 'my position' being faith-based.  Well, I am actually an agnostic.  However, I am an agnostic from a philosophical position - there is no guarantee that science will be able to give all the answers to the whole of existence, and there is no argument that persuades me about any particular religion.  Science, however, is based on evidence, and there is no objective evidence of God, or any other god-like being, so you can have faith that God exists from a religious standpoint, and you can say that God might exist from a philosophical standpoint, but you cannot base any science on the idea God exists. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 16:57, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:::Incidentally, you touched on 'my position' being faith-based.  Well, I am actually an agnostic.  However, I am an agnostic from a philosophical position - there is no guarantee that science will be able to give all the answers to the whole of existence, and there is no argument that persuades me about any particular religion.  Science, however, is based on evidence, and there is no objective evidence of God, or any other god-like being, so you can have faith that God exists from a religious standpoint, and you can say that God might exist from a philosophical standpoint, but you cannot base any science on the idea God exists. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 16:57, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::::Typing in a number into a computer requires a keyboard/computer and a keyboard/computer require intelligence. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:05, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::::Typing in a number into a computer requires a keyboard/computer and a keyboard/computer require intelligence. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:05, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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::::::::You're confusing the mechanism for recording the number with the number itself.  The number itself was derived from a purely random process. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 19:05, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
    
::::::::A raindrop falling into a lake causes a ripple.  That ripple contains information on the force with which the raindrop hit the lake.  Information from a completely unintelligent source.  Information comes from everything and anything.[[User:Raggs|Raggs]] 17:08, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::::A raindrop falling into a lake causes a ripple.  That ripple contains information on the force with which the raindrop hit the lake.  Information from a completely unintelligent source.  Information comes from everything and anything.[[User:Raggs|Raggs]] 17:08, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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