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Andy, you're clueless. I'm sure to the 95% degree that you are against [insert unrelated conservative talking point here]. This proves that your worldview is skewered! You are clearly using "Conservative Style" rule number 36 which is [insert ad hominem attack in a lazy attampt to discredit opponent without actually adressing his points]. You see, Andy, words are tools invented by humans. They are used to express ideas and thoughts, and have no intrinsic value in and of themselves.
Andy, you're clueless. I'm sure to the 95% degree that you are against [insert unrelated conservative talking point here]. This proves that your worldview is skewered! You are clearly using "Conservative Style" rule number 36 which is [insert ad hominem attack in a lazy attampt to discredit opponent without actually adressing his points]. You see, Andy, words are tools invented by humans. They are used to express ideas and thoughts, and have no intrinsic value in and of themselves.
There are no such thing as ugly words, only ugly thoughts and ideas. Example: See if you can name the truly offensive sentence of the 2 below.
1. You're f-ing great, man. I love you so f-ing much.
2. Sir, I detest you, and wish for you to writhe in agony for all eternity.
2. Sir, I detest you, and wish for you to writhe in agony for all eternity.
Did you get it? Yes that's right. Sentence 2 is the only one that we should morally object to. To arbitrarily pick combinations of letters and sounds and label them 'offensive' is childish and a waste of time. All the same, good luck and Godspeed, Andy![[User:StephenS|StephenS]] ps, i know the first sentence sounds dumb to you, but that's besides the point. If that's how close friends wish to communicate, what business is it of yours?
Did you get it? Yes that's right. Sentence 2 is the only one that we should morally object to. To arbitrarily pick combinations of letters and sounds and label them 'offensive' is childish and a waste of time. All the same, good luck and Godspeed, Andy!-[[User:StephenS|StephenS]]
ps, I know the first sentence sounds dumb to you, but that's besides the point. If that's how close friends wish to communicate, what business is it of yours?
: You should be blocked for that!!! Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:45, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
My apologies, Mr. Schlafly. I assumed because you routinely call others "clueless" despite other sysop's objections that you would have no problem taking what you habitually dish out, but apparently you are more sensitive a soul than i realized. I will keep that in mind in the future. [[User:StephenS|StephenS]]
Excuse me, I'm new here, but how do you defend the position that profanity is immoral? I do avoid using it around certain people as it offends them; however, I fail to see what makes it intrinsically sinful.
Language is relative and only means as much as it means to the parties in question.
[[User:Trinity123|Trinity123]]
:Every word has an origin and a meaning, and there is no excuse in using profanity even with a different implied meaning. Every language is full of hundreds of thousands of words, why resort to profane words if you can use other, more precise and meaningful words? [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 10:22, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
But why does the origin or denotation of a word matter? And precision, or meaningfulness? The word that best expresses the point may well be a simple profanity.
The origin argument doesn't hold water as there are many words that are either etymologically linked or synonymous with profanities that are generally considered acceptable. For instance, "gosh" is a minced-oath of "God" when using his name in blasphemy. And there are more extreme examples, which I'll reveal only of pressed as they may cause offence.
And not all words that are considered profanities necessarily refer to especially profane topics, so why are they still profane?
[[User:Trinity123|Trinity123]]
: What the #%@!%& are you trying to say???--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:15, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
(I'll presume you're refering to the second remark) Well, I fail to see why terms relating to excrement are profane.
[[User:Trinity123|Trinity123]]
::Swearing at the printer again? +_+ <sub>always tired</sub> [[User:Kektklik|Kektk]] 23:43, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
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