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You say "''advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist''". True - except it might if you advocate one group's rights entirely at the expense of another group's rights, especially when the group whose rights you dismiss (black South Africans) are in fact the ''indigenous people'' of the area in question.[[User:PeteSC|PeteSC]] 11:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT) | You say "''advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist''". True - except it might if you advocate one group's rights entirely at the expense of another group's rights, especially when the group whose rights you dismiss (black South Africans) are in fact the ''indigenous people'' of the area in question.[[User:PeteSC|PeteSC]] 11:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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: I might go along with leaving them to their own ends for reasons of practicality, sovereignty, and diplomacy, but not because "I don't care". [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:33, 5 June 2008 (EDT) | : I might go along with leaving them to their own ends for reasons of practicality, sovereignty, and diplomacy, but not because "I don't care". [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:33, 5 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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- Philip J. Rayment 08:54, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
"I oppose...
Abortion in any Christian society...." Presumably, then, you're okay with the aborting of non-Christian foetuses? AliceBG 10:49, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Hi, I don't care for what people do in their own countries. Eg in Saudi Arabia, that is their business and they can govern their country in a Muslim way.
Alfred123 10:53, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
- So I guess "love your neighbour" doesn't extend to fellow human beings in other countries? Philip J. Rayment 10:57, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
- Phil, as far as this guy is concerned, "love your neighbour" doesn't even extend to the people in your own country if they don't have the same skin colour as you -- see his user page for his advocacy of a white Boer homeland. AliceBG 11:03, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
- What fellowship can light have with darkness, Philip? (I might be paraphrasing a little).GHolland 11:27, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist.
And I respect the right of non-Christians to do as they please.
If you were to start dictating to non-Christian nations what they should do then it would make the threat of Muslim extremist terrorism even greater. It is best to just leave them to deal with things in their own way.
Alfred123 11:21, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
You say "advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist". True - except it might if you advocate one group's rights entirely at the expense of another group's rights, especially when the group whose rights you dismiss (black South Africans) are in fact the indigenous people of the area in question.PeteSC 11:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Wrong. The Voortrekkers arrived in the Transvaal and Orange Free State first, long before the Bantus came down from their kingdoms to the north.
Only the Zulus were there and the trekkers, after being betrayed by Zulu King Dingaan, negotiated land rights with the Zulus in return for returning some cattle to the Zulu King which was stolen from him by a lesser Chief.
Alfred123 11:36, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
- I might go along with leaving them to their own ends for reasons of practicality, sovereignty, and diplomacy, but not because "I don't care". Philip J. Rayment 11:33, 5 June 2008 (EDT)