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Being a member of the [[Civil Air Patrol]], I know the Flag Code pretty well. After skimming over it again today, I saw what may have been a breach of Section I, Title IV of the United States Code (Flag Code). I think that being a pro-American website, we should take care not to desecrate the Colors of the United States. --[[User:Capercorn]] <small> [[User Talk:Capercorn|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Capercorn|contribs]] </small> 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 
Being a member of the [[Civil Air Patrol]], I know the Flag Code pretty well. After skimming over it again today, I saw what may have been a breach of Section I, Title IV of the United States Code (Flag Code). I think that being a pro-American website, we should take care not to desecrate the Colors of the United States. --[[User:Capercorn]] <small> [[User Talk:Capercorn|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Capercorn|contribs]] </small> 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:Link to section of Flag Code in question: [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/3.html]. --[[User:Capercorn]] <small> [[User Talk:Capercorn|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Capercorn|contribs]] </small> 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:Link to section of Flag Code in question: [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/3.html]. --[[User:Capercorn]] <small> [[User Talk:Capercorn|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Capercorn|contribs]] </small> 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
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==Yes, but==
  
 
::Technically it would seem that the CP logo would be in violation, but I wouldn't expect an outcry of condemnation over it.  This topic brings up two different questions regarding the logo I've recalled seeing elsewhere on CP.   
 
::Technically it would seem that the CP logo would be in violation, but I wouldn't expect an outcry of condemnation over it.  This topic brings up two different questions regarding the logo I've recalled seeing elsewhere on CP.   
  
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:: * First, is the concept of "conservative" here such that it's a distinctly American perspective, or one that could be shared worldwide.  Some significant contributors like [[Philip J Rayment]] are from other countries, and their views express conservativism without being American.
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::: - First, is the concept of "conservative" here such that it's a distinctly American perspective, or one that could be shared worldwide.  Some significant contributors like [[Philip J Rayment]] are from other countries, and their views express conservativism without being American.
  
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:: * Second, the use of the flag scheme in the CP logo seems to imply that being Conservative is American and that somehow being non-conservative is being un-American (it comes across that way in some comments here, anyway).   
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::: - Second, the use of the flag scheme in the CP logo seems to imply that being Conservative is American and that somehow being non-conservative is being un-American (it comes across that way in some comments here, anyway).   
  
 
::That said, it would be an interesting project/assignment for the homeschoolers who contribute to CP to have a competition to design an alternate CP logo that does not use the U.S. Flag in its theme, but conveys the ideals of being a Conservative in a more direct way instead.  It doesn't have to necessarily replace the current CP logo unless folks want it to, but it would be a great opportunity to see how the kids express what being Conservative means to them.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 13:59, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::That said, it would be an interesting project/assignment for the homeschoolers who contribute to CP to have a competition to design an alternate CP logo that does not use the U.S. Flag in its theme, but conveys the ideals of being a Conservative in a more direct way instead.  It doesn't have to necessarily replace the current CP logo unless folks want it to, but it would be a great opportunity to see how the kids express what being Conservative means to them.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 13:59, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

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Being a member of the Civil Air Patrol, I know the Flag Code pretty well. After skimming over it again today, I saw what may have been a breach of Section I, Title IV of the United States Code (Flag Code). I think that being a pro-American website, we should take care not to desecrate the Colors of the United States. --User:Capercorn Talk contribs 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Link to section of Flag Code in question: [1]. --User:Capercorn Talk contribs 16:05, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Yes, but

Technically it would seem that the CP logo would be in violation, but I wouldn't expect an outcry of condemnation over it. This topic brings up two different questions regarding the logo I've recalled seeing elsewhere on CP.
- First, is the concept of "conservative" here such that it's a distinctly American perspective, or one that could be shared worldwide. Some significant contributors like Philip J Rayment are from other countries, and their views express conservativism without being American.
- Second, the use of the flag scheme in the CP logo seems to imply that being Conservative is American and that somehow being non-conservative is being un-American (it comes across that way in some comments here, anyway).
That said, it would be an interesting project/assignment for the homeschoolers who contribute to CP to have a competition to design an alternate CP logo that does not use the U.S. Flag in its theme, but conveys the ideals of being a Conservative in a more direct way instead. It doesn't have to necessarily replace the current CP logo unless folks want it to, but it would be a great opportunity to see how the kids express what being Conservative means to them. --DinsdaleP 13:59, 5 June 2008 (EDT)