Difference between revisions of "Talk:Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging"
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You accuse anti-AWB journalists of libel for using the phrase "neo-nazi" (although if you substitute the word "black" for the word "Jew" in early Nazi ideology I think you would have trouble telling the difference between that and AWB ideology - the difference being that the Nazis found themselves with enough power to carry out their horrific evil). Where these journalists legally found to have committed libel? If not, then this is just an outright lie. | You accuse anti-AWB journalists of libel for using the phrase "neo-nazi" (although if you substitute the word "black" for the word "Jew" in early Nazi ideology I think you would have trouble telling the difference between that and AWB ideology - the difference being that the Nazis found themselves with enough power to carry out their horrific evil). Where these journalists legally found to have committed libel? If not, then this is just an outright lie. | ||
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| + | The point is that the AWB is not a national socialist organisation and can therefore not be adequately described as neo-nazi. They are a cultural organisation. | ||
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| + | I was referring to Greg Marinovich writing in his book The Bang Bang Club that AWB members took pot-shots at passing Black people in Bophuthatswana, when the official enquiry found the AWB to be responsible for only 5 of the 60 civilian deaths. | ||
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| + | I am not a racist and I am not defending the actions of the AWB but they deserve neutral and unbiased reports. Everything I have written has been researched, if you can tell me where I wrote something which was, as you say, racist then I will not have a problem with you removing it. | ||
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| + | There is nothing racist in the article. | ||
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| + | [[User:Alfred123|Alfred123]] 11:31, 6 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 15:31, June 6, 2008
Goodness... This article is remarkably pro-AWB - an organisation which, in the words of the author of the article, "demands the maintenance of the division of White and non-White people". PeteSC 11:05, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Please attempt to justify your statement instead of just saying "It's pro-AWB". Cite something please.
Alfred123 12:18, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Also the AWB amended its program of principles in 1988, omitting most references to race, as the emphasis of the group shifted on to culture.
Also the anti-Zionist statements present in the first program of principles were absent in the second.
Alfred123 21:20, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Your implied support for the AWB stems partly from the subtle use of certain words and/or phrases to describe their opponents, whom you accuse of "demonising the movement's aims" (we all know the connotations of "demonisation" - that the "victim" is innocent) and subjecting the AWB to an " international media hate campaign" (placing the "bad guy" label squarely on the AWB's opponents).
The occasional violence of the opponents of the AWB is described as "cold-blooded", but the frequently mentioned and large-scale violence of the AWB (which, you claim, has been with the purpose of "defending" whites) passes without moral condemnation.
You accuse anti-AWB journalists of libel for using the phrase "neo-nazi" (although if you substitute the word "black" for the word "Jew" in early Nazi ideology I think you would have trouble telling the difference between that and AWB ideology - the difference being that the Nazis found themselves with enough power to carry out their horrific evil). Where these journalists legally found to have committed libel? If not, then this is just an outright lie.
The point is that the AWB is not a national socialist organisation and can therefore not be adequately described as neo-nazi. They are a cultural organisation.
I was referring to Greg Marinovich writing in his book The Bang Bang Club that AWB members took pot-shots at passing Black people in Bophuthatswana, when the official enquiry found the AWB to be responsible for only 5 of the 60 civilian deaths.
I am not a racist and I am not defending the actions of the AWB but they deserve neutral and unbiased reports. Everything I have written has been researched, if you can tell me where I wrote something which was, as you say, racist then I will not have a problem with you removing it.
There is nothing racist in the article.
Alfred123 11:31, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
Blanket term is unacceptable
When User:Murray editted the article he desiganted the Bophuthatswana coup as terrorist, even though, as part of the Afrikaner Volksfront, the AWB had the right to be in Bophuthatswana.
Alfred123 05:36, 6 June 2008 (EDT)