:::And that is why the contradiction occurs, because there is no way of ordering the without the axiom of choice, you assume you can and watch it fail. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:30, 14 June 2008 (EDT) | :::And that is why the contradiction occurs, because there is no way of ordering the without the axiom of choice, you assume you can and watch it fail. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:30, 14 June 2008 (EDT) |