Talk:Greek influence on Western Culture

This is an encyclopedia entry? "I would like to thank classical Greek civilization for the invention of man-boy love affairs." This is a conservative entry?

I suggest that this whole entry be moved to "talk" and the "Greek empire" page be left empty if there is no qualified material for it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anitra (talk)

I am going to clear out all this nonsense pretty soon, and make it into something resembling an article. I notice Joaquin has edited it a lot, and he has said stuff to me twice already about not removing items before saying something, so here I am: I am going to remove at least half of the junk in it, and rewrite it almost entirely.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 22:58, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Please improve the article. HenryS 23:07, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Okay, this has probably been up long enough now.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 01:15, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks. Good work. HenryS 01:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

As should be obvious to anyone now, Joaquin has decided he doesn't want to discuss his edits, he just wants to keep making them over and over. Seven, eight times now. I have brought this to his attention almost as many times on his user talk, but he ignores me.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 14:01, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Tom you may want to just let it go. It would appear that Joaquin believes you are nitpicking and that any "debate" on it is a waste of his time. He would rather create. Perhaps he feels the blockquote indentation simply gives it a better layout. Is it that important? You've expressed your concerns and been true to your own beliefs. Now it may be best to just move on. Learn together 14:29, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

That is in no way fair. Blockquoting like that may make it look better on his screen, but because people have a varying size of screen or windows to view the page, it makes it look awful in other resolutions. This is one of the basic principles for web pages and the way HTML and by extension wiki markup was designed.

The issue here is not that I am right and he is wrong, although I do obviously think I am correct. It's that he has reverted continually, ignoring my pleas to discuss it and perhaps compromise on a solution. I don't think it is best to move on, because the next time he edits an article we both happen to work on, and we disagree, I will have set a precedent that he can just refuse to cooperate or collaborate.

It is not unreasonable to ask him to at least acknowledge the discussion and perhaps even explain himself.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 14:39, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Joaquin, it would probably be best to explain the reversions, because some clean up could be useful. DanH 14:31, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I am sure the article could be better. What we need to have clear is the procedure. It is not acceptable to delete important information or images without the opinion of other editors. You can not ask for explanations when you dont give explanations or wait for a reply. The image of Pericles is necessary. It is infront of his name and represent an important time of Greek development. Images do what words can not do. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:34, 16 June 2008 (EDT)