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Wouldn't it be simpler to call this category "[[:Category:Islamic countries]]"? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:36, 20 June 2008 (EDT) | Wouldn't it be simpler to call this category "[[:Category:Islamic countries]]"? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:36, 20 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
:I suppose they aren't neccessarily the same thing - depending on cultural/political attitudesas well as religious affiliation. Albania is Moslem majority, but is is Islamic? I've never been, but I rather think not - not in the way we think of Islamic, or Albanian. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 15:40, 20 June 2008 (EDT) | :I suppose they aren't neccessarily the same thing - depending on cultural/political attitudesas well as religious affiliation. Albania is Moslem majority, but is is Islamic? I've never been, but I rather think not - not in the way we think of Islamic, or Albanian. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 15:40, 20 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | So we should distinguish between [[Islamic]] and [[Muslim]] in some way? Gosh, that's a fine hair to split, but I suppose it can be done. I get my historical information on the [[Islamic Civilization]] from [[Arnold Toynbee]] and his ''A Study of History''. But I get my religious information on Islam and Muslims from a variety of more modern sources. | ||
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| + | I gather from Tonybee that Islam is a [[civilization]] based on [[Muslim]] religion, just as [[Western Civilization]] is based on [[Christian]] religion. As you probably know, Toynbee studied 22 civilizations and found a religious basis for most of them. But he felt that a civilization was more than its underlying religion. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 08:43, 22 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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Wouldn't it be simpler to call this category "Category:Islamic countries"? --Ed Poor Talk 15:36, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
- I suppose they aren't neccessarily the same thing - depending on cultural/political attitudesas well as religious affiliation. Albania is Moslem majority, but is is Islamic? I've never been, but I rather think not - not in the way we think of Islamic, or Albanian. Bugler 15:40, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
So we should distinguish between Islamic and Muslim in some way? Gosh, that's a fine hair to split, but I suppose it can be done. I get my historical information on the Islamic Civilization from Arnold Toynbee and his A Study of History. But I get my religious information on Islam and Muslims from a variety of more modern sources.
I gather from Tonybee that Islam is a civilization based on Muslim religion, just as Western Civilization is based on Christian religion. As you probably know, Toynbee studied 22 civilizations and found a religious basis for most of them. But he felt that a civilization was more than its underlying religion. --Ed Poor Talk 08:43, 22 June 2008 (EDT)