Difference between revisions of "Debate:The Declaration of Independence or Interdependence?"

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I don't think you have to be one or the other.  I'm a proud American as well as a citizen of earth. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 14:27, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
 
I don't think you have to be one or the other.  I'm a proud American as well as a citizen of earth. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 14:27, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
  
:The difference being that one is the antithesis of the other. So that you can't claim to be both. If you do though you are more likely ascribing to the one over the other. Which is one of the points of this debate. Does anyone know the difference between the two?--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 15:33, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
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:The difference being that one is the antithesis of the other. So that you can't claim to be both. If you do though you are more likely ascribing to the one over the other. Which is one of the points of this debate. The difference being the Declaration of Independence is one of the founding documents of the USA along with the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It affirms inalienable rights to individuals and limits governmental powers. The Declaration of Interdependence doesn't affirm any inalienable rights nor does it limit the power of the state over the individual. In fact it only mentions the collective of humanity as if it were a single element of nature. It seems to have more of a concern about humanities impact on nature and the ecological integrity  of the Earth. In contrast with the Declaration of Independence it mandates the totalitarian role of government to control and regulate everything. Its language is that of collectivism and whose goal is nothing short of a worldwide socialist order. All packaged in warm and fuzzy, touchy feely wording meant to hide its despicable goals with fluffy doublespeak.--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 15:33, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

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Your Declaration

Which one do you fall under? The Declaration of Independence of 1776 that began this great country; or the declaration of interdependence which began the quest for global governance at the 1992 Earth Summit?--Roopilots6 11:55, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

You might need to include some links. I don't think many people are familiar with the latter. CraigC 12:02, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

One example to get you started - [1] and also look these phrases up on any search engine - Agenda 21 declaration of interdependence - earth charter declaration of interdependence - or Earth Charter.--Roopilots6 13:11, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't think you have to be one or the other. I'm a proud American as well as a citizen of earth. CraigC 14:27, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

The difference being that one is the antithesis of the other. So that you can't claim to be both. If you do though you are more likely ascribing to the one over the other. Which is one of the points of this debate. The difference being the Declaration of Independence is one of the founding documents of the USA along with the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It affirms inalienable rights to individuals and limits governmental powers. The Declaration of Interdependence doesn't affirm any inalienable rights nor does it limit the power of the state over the individual. In fact it only mentions the collective of humanity as if it were a single element of nature. It seems to have more of a concern about humanities impact on nature and the ecological integrity of the Earth. In contrast with the Declaration of Independence it mandates the totalitarian role of government to control and regulate everything. Its language is that of collectivism and whose goal is nothing short of a worldwide socialist order. All packaged in warm and fuzzy, touchy feely wording meant to hide its despicable goals with fluffy doublespeak.--Roopilots6 15:33, 4 July 2008 (EDT)