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cleaned up page and proposed new edits in the next couple of days
== Suicide is a crime? ==
I'm going to look for more information to verify this, but as far as I know, most 1st world countries do not criminalize suicide. I think it would be more accurately stated as "suicide was once considered criminal in many countries, but many of these laws have been overturned" with a list of countries in which it IS a crime. The only thing I know that is criminal about suicide in the United States (where I live) is to assist in a suicide or incite someone to suicide.
I'll try and find more information on this, but I may clean up the article (and expand to include mental illness, Durkheim, etc.) in a couple of days based on Russel's Teapot. If anyone has a problem with this, please post on my talk page or respond here -- I still unsure of the rules here, and so I don't know if Russel's Teapot is enough to back up an edit. Thanks!--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 11:53, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
== Killing Oneself v. Suicide ==
This needs some clarification, but I'm drawing a blank on how to do so. Killing oneself is not always suicide. For example, jumping on a grenade to save fellow soldiers is (in the case of mortal injury) killing oneself, but this isn't considered suicide. Any suggestions? [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 20:44, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
This needs some clarification, but I'm drawing a blank on how to do so. Killing oneself is not always suicide. For example, jumping on a grenade to save fellow soldiers is (in the case of mortal injury) killing oneself, but this isn't considered suicide. Any suggestions? [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 20:44, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
:*Killing oneself is always suicide. According to [[Durkheim]], a famous sociologist, he states that there are four different types of suicides. The example you mention above would be defined as altruistic suicide because it is killing oneself for the good of others.
:*Killing oneself is always suicide. According to [[Durkheim]], a famous sociologist, he states that there are four different types of suicides. The example you mention above would be defined as altruistic suicide because it is killing oneself for the good of others.