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::My fellow Buckeye, it is evident that many Christians will vote for Obama, just by observing primary statistics. I am just saying Christians are confused about their faith if they vote Obama. So he is not the anti-Christ. His views are anti-Christian. If a true Christian votes cares for values and votes Obama, well then, they are giving Christianity a bad name.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt| ]]</sup> 12:51, 3 November 2008 (EST)
::My fellow Buckeye, it is evident that many Christians will vote for Obama, just by observing primary statistics. I am just saying Christians are confused about their faith if they vote Obama. So he is not the anti-Christ. His views are anti-Christian. If a true Christian votes cares for values and votes Obama, well then, they are giving Christianity a bad name.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt| ]]</sup> 12:51, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::Jpatt, check worldwide statistics on support for the two candidates. They are pretty clear on which of the two candidates the majority of all the Christians in the world support. If you are too lazy to check by yourself, it's Obama. I find that a pretty convincing argument on who has more Christian values. --[[User:JennyM|JennyM]] 12:54, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::Jpatt, check worldwide statistics on support for the two candidates. They are pretty clear on which of the two candidates the majority of all the Christians in the world support. If you are too lazy to check by yourself, it's Obama. I find that a pretty convincing argument on who has more Christian values. --[[User:JennyM|JennyM]] 12:54, 3 November 2008 (EST)
::::: What statistics? Not only have I seen no such statistics, I can't imagine that anybody is going to survey Christians worldwide to find out with of the two American presidential candidates they prefer. And Christian values are defined by the Bible, not by the values of the person that Christians would prefer to see as American president. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:31, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::: Oh if the world wants Obama, then I should shut up, duh. It is convincing who has more Christian values. Hint, it aint Obama.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt| ]]</sup> 13:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::: Oh if the world wants Obama, then I should shut up, duh. It is convincing who has more Christian values. Hint, it aint Obama.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt| ]]</sup> 13:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::And again I say you are trying to impose one set of beliefs on all Christians, and you are questioning the faith of those who believe differently than you. Not everybody is a one or two issue voter, you know. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:44, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::And again I say you are trying to impose one set of beliefs on all Christians, and you are questioning the faith of those who believe differently than you. Not everybody is a one or two issue voter, you know. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:44, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::PS: Since you brought up same sex marriage, both Obama and Biden ''oppose'' it [http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.samesexmarriage.html]. And you didn't mention stem cell research: McCain supports federal funding of it [http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.stemcell.html] and Obama. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:54, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::PS: Since you brought up same sex marriage, both Obama and Biden ''oppose'' it [http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.samesexmarriage.html]. And you didn't mention stem cell research: McCain supports federal funding of it [http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.stemcell.html] and Obama. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:54, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::: "McCain supports federal funding of ... Obama"??? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:31, 3 November 2008 (EST)
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