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Talk:Kent State protests (view source)
Revision as of 17:04, December 1, 2008
, 17:04, December 1, 2008to Dr. S.
:I vote remove it. The first sentence is irrelevant (we already know that the ONG fired shots) and the second part is an opinion (with [[ad populum]] overtones). [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 01:19, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:I vote remove it. The first sentence is irrelevant (we already know that the ONG fired shots) and the second part is an opinion (with [[ad populum]] overtones). [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 01:19, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
::I think the quote is implying that the ONG had been ''fired upon'' by a sniper, justifying their firing their weapons. Am I alone in that interpretation? -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 11:55, 1 December 2008 (EST)
::I think the quote is implying that the ONG had been ''fired upon'' by a sniper, justifying their firing their weapons. Am I alone in that interpretation? -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 11:55, 1 December 2008 (EST)
:::That's the report I recall reading, when I was reading up on the history of the incident around a year ago. On the other hand, it's hard to understand how firing into a crowd would have any effect on a sniper.
:::If I had been a national guard officer at the time, I would have issued wise [[rules of engagement]] to my men. I really doubt these guys had been given any kind of training about crowd control. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 12:04, 1 December 2008 (EST)
One student was wounded by National guardsmen and she was shot another 6 times by aimed fire as she lay on the ground. The guardsmen fired at obviously unarmed civilians in contravention of US Law that forbids the army being used in police matters [[User:Markr|Markr]] 11:11, 1 December 2008 (EST)
One student was wounded by National guardsmen and she was shot another 6 times by aimed fire as she lay on the ground. The guardsmen fired at obviously unarmed civilians in contravention of US Law that forbids the army being used in police matters [[User:Markr|Markr]] 11:11, 1 December 2008 (EST)
:2nd request, sorry to split the thread. We need to cite the law and describe its interpretation. Everyone agrees that police and military should not [[open fire]] on peaceful, unarmed civilians. It's the shades of gray that has everyone upset. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:30, 1 December 2008 (EST)
:2nd request, sorry to split the thread. We need to cite the law and describe its interpretation. Everyone agrees that police and military should not [[open fire]] on peaceful, unarmed civilians. It's the shades of gray that has everyone upset. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:30, 1 December 2008 (EST)