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:Ed...I will do what I can, but give me a day to collect my thoughts...and bear in mind that I belong to a breed that is generally non-judgemental historically, so that if I say here, or on any other page or on any facet of pre-20th century history, that the Americans did that, or the Brits did this, or the Portuguese were this  (or  that) I am not laying blame, nor following any ideological path. I am not a scholar as such, just an extremely well-read person with a curious mind (though the memory for detail is starting to go.)
 
:Ed...I will do what I can, but give me a day to collect my thoughts...and bear in mind that I belong to a breed that is generally non-judgemental historically, so that if I say here, or on any other page or on any facet of pre-20th century history, that the Americans did that, or the Brits did this, or the Portuguese were this  (or  that) I am not laying blame, nor following any ideological path. I am not a scholar as such, just an extremely well-read person with a curious mind (though the memory for detail is starting to go.)
 
::(I now have to get a bit of other history onto site. By the way, it's quarter to five in the morning here, and I am not yet fully functional.) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 12:48, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 
::(I now have to get a bit of other history onto site. By the way, it's quarter to five in the morning here, and I am not yet fully functional.) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 12:48, 1 December 2008 (EST)
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:::Random thought...middle passage can mean the second leg of the three voyages making up the "triangular trade"...... Or ....  Though I have never seen the term used in an Atlantic context, I have seen references to a "middle passage" in the Indian Ocean...where they stood out from the South African coast, passed well to the east of Madagascar and sailed more or less diagonally north east to India or Ceylon instead of the Portuguese route up the coast of Africa and across the Arabian Sea using the monsoon, or the Dutch way across to just shy of West Aust, using the "Roaring Forties" then up. So a middle passage in the slave trade context could be the middle passage from Africa to the Caribbean; not the north passage to North America, or the southern route to Brazil. I know I could be arguing against my own case but that's me.  (I now have to leave for the morning or longer...Christmas shopping with wife...may not be back 'til after 4PM when I am locked out.) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 16:50, 1 December 2008 (EST)
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