Talk:Slavery

Why is there no reference to Biblical slavery apart from the captivity of the Jews in Egypt? I know that the enslavement of others by the Jews is controversial (in that the Bible doesn't seem to "condemn" the practice, but I'm sure there are good reasons why either I'm wrong in that or for God's overlooking the practice.

In any event, it is a debate I often have with moral relativists and I was hoping to find something about it here in my own (Christan) people.

I agree completely. I have posted several Biblical references. CEinhorn 01:55, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

"ancient Egypt, where Hebrews were slaves."

There's absolutely no historical evidence for this outside of Exodus.

• The book of Philemon is a record of Paul sending a slave back to his master "no longer as a slave but more than a slave-- a beloved brother." (Philemon 1: 16) --~ TerryK ^Talk2Me! 23:54, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Abomination

Can't anyone fix this page? --~ Terry ^Talk2Me! 18:17, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Is this a joke?

I mean. Nothing is cited. And the whole thing is a big, fallacious argument in favor of slavery. - User:Moriarty

• Did you not see my note, about your post? If you think you are up to it, fix it! That is what a Wiki is for. --~ SysopTK ^Talk2Me! 21:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

I started by deleting the parts about slaves having free housing, food and health care. As an administrator you might want to delete things like that a little quicker because they make this website look alot like some of the white supremist sites. Hopefully, not what you want. -Gasmonkey

Recent Removal of Bible passages

MountainDew, could you please explain the justification for deleting the quotes from the Bible regarding slavery that were recently added by Spoon.Airdish 06:48, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

The presence of verses in the bible which appear to support slavery in the most direct interpretation is an embarassment to Christianity, but ignoring them is dishonest and will not make them disappear. I think we should keep them, but see if we can find some anti-slavery NT quotes too. - BornAgainBrit

• And you feel, either of you, that biblical quotes are so important in an encyclopedia, explaining slavery to contemporary users, how? Contrary to what you seem to think, this is not the Bible Encyclopedia, but the Conservapedia. MountainDew is a Sysop here, like myself, and is charged with editing and keeping entries on track, and fair. Maybe you guys should spend at least some time researching the slave trade, and maybe contemporary slavery practices, like the White Slave Trade, and that would be most helpful to this page. :-) --~ TerryK ^Talk2Me! 15:46, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

My question for MountainDew was because he only removed the Bible passages which appeared to justify the slave trade and kept in only those passages which appeared to condemn it. If he had removed all of the passages I would not have had a problem. You said yourself that the job of a SYSOP is to be fair, that edit was not. For me the Bible has nothing to do with my opinions on the slave trade (in case I need to say it - it is repugnant to me), but exactly because he is a SYSOP I assumed that they Bible entries were wanted here.Airdish 16:15, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

• Well, unlike some users, we are concerned with the article as a whole, not just matters of religion. Since the Bible does not support slavery, but merely recognizes conditions as they were at the time, it would be unfair to use the Bible to justify any form of salvery. What was that bit about rendering unto Caeser? --~ TerryK ^Talk2Me! 17:25, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

As I tried to imply, I do not see a reason for there to be any Bible passages in this article. But if there are any, then they should show how it was from both sides of the argument, i.e. the article should be fair - look at this exchange regarding User:Spoon's posts - cherry-picking what you want or don't want should not be an option and I wanted to question User:MountainDew's employing of this tactic. I'd remove all passages but I assume that they'd be reverted. I agree with you that the Bible cannot be read with a 21st century morality. My vote is for the creation of a new article on "Slavery in the Bible" if anyone wants one. Airdish 17:44, 22 March 2007 (EDT)