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:I’m no fan of these rankings, but they are motivating factors in both what school many students choose to attend and what decisions are made by the administrations of many schools.  Since they are a reality, and a reality that motivates how people actually behave, shouldn’t they be included in the article?  That is not to say that the ranking that is assigned to any given school actually reflects that school’s quality (though I suspect it is an adequate rough guide) – but that the rankings are not accurate representations does not mean they are not used and that they are not important.  I would, therefore, argue in favor of including them.--[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 13:43, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:I’m no fan of these rankings, but they are motivating factors in both what school many students choose to attend and what decisions are made by the administrations of many schools.  Since they are a reality, and a reality that motivates how people actually behave, shouldn’t they be included in the article?  That is not to say that the ranking that is assigned to any given school actually reflects that school’s quality (though I suspect it is an adequate rough guide) – but that the rankings are not accurate representations does not mean they are not used and that they are not important.  I would, therefore, argue in favor of including them.--[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 13:43, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
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:::Well, I'd like to ask you this: can you find any well-known encyclopedia ''except Wikipedia'' that includes them? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:17, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
    
::I'm the one who put the ranking in there.  I think it's probably okay either way though agree it doesn't belong in the lead.  At the time I was quickly editing the original version which slammed Brown - the sentence initially read something like "Brown is an Ivy League school but is consistently rated as the worst of them.".  While that may be true it's horribly misleading.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 13:46, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
 
::I'm the one who put the ranking in there.  I think it's probably okay either way though agree it doesn't belong in the lead.  At the time I was quickly editing the original version which slammed Brown - the sentence initially read something like "Brown is an Ivy League school but is consistently rated as the worst of them.".  While that may be true it's horribly misleading.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 13:46, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
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:::Agree completely. (Just think, they ''could'' have said "literally nobody goes to Brown's law school.")  [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:17, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
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