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| − | Some are ready. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 10:20, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
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| − | :: It seems that thumb does not work fine with .png images. See. [[Proxima Centauri]]. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 11:00, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
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| − | ::: It seems to work as a thumbnail if you add a specific pixel width to the parameters, figured this out when I was playing with the Alpha Centauri ones. It may be an issue with the wiki software and PNG thumbnails where it requires this, not sure, but adding the pixel width seems to solve it. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 12;15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
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| − | == VW / VY Canis Majoris ==
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| − | In your recent article, [[VW Canis Majoris]], why do you have "'''VY Canis Majoris''' is a..." and other mentions of a "VY Canis Majoris". This is very confusing. Is "VY" an alternate name to "VW"? --[[User:ChrisZ|ChrisZ]] 18:18, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
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| − | :No, it should be VY Canis Majoris, and it has been renamed so, I just made a mistake with the article title, is fixed now. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 21:51, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
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| − | ::: Zeta Puppis & VY Canis Majoris - Images; DONE. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 22:53, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
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| − | ==Image requests==
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| − | Your images have been uploaded [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Log/upload]. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 16:30, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
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| − | :And more: [[File:Hs-2005-26-c-large web.jpg|200px]][[File:Hs-1993-18-a-large web.jpg|200px]] [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 16:17, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::Thanks Karajou! --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:18, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::And this one: [[File:B01Magellanic Clouds.jpg|200px]] :) [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 16:25, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ==Template==
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| − | Try this infobox template ([[Template:Night Sky]]) for your astronomy pages. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:18, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Nice template, I will have to start incorporating that into my past (and future) articles. Of course it may mean I'll request several more pics. ;) --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 18:59, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::With the template, you have something like this: [[Andromeda galaxy]]. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:14, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Antares&curid=92467&diff=733465&oldid=733457&rcid=805439 Nice usage of template] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 13:13, 16 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Thanks! --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 08:47, 17 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | == More Images ==
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| − | [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests#Constellation_Images Your image requests from today have been uploaded.] --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small>/Admin</small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 14:09, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | Found a smaller version of the Draco map, and inserted it into the article. I'll let you do the rest :) [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:33, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ==Additional templates==
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| − | The Night Sky template probably will not work for Draco, nor will it work for other constellations or stars. I'll work on adding both later on today. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:41, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Yeah, although I am able to fill in some information, a more specialized template would be needed for constellations, given their special nature. Perhaps categories such as "abbreviation", "brightest star", "nearest star" and "main stars", that last one would be for the numerable amount of main stars. Main stars are those that actually are used in the outline of the constellation itself. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 15:45, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::One is done, and placed within the Draco article; double-check for accuracy, and any suggestions that could be made within the templates. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 16:01, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :::The only thing I can think of off hand to add to the template is brightest star, otherwise it looks good. Also when done, if you can link me to the empty template, that would be cool. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:09, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::::[[Template:Constellation]] Done. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 16:20, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :::::Very nice, it will certainly help when it comes to writing the individual constellation articles(88 total, that is a lot!). --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:23, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ==Microsoft WorldWide Telescope==
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| − | This image [[File:RigelLocation.JPG|200px]] was done using Microsoft's program, and cropping it via Windows Paint. The idea is to have star maps which are not posted on Wikipedia. Any thoughts? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:11, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Well I have no personal issue using the same images as Wikipedia, since usually it is a great resource of public domain and licensed to freely distribute images, that being said I totally am fine with creating our own. My only problem in that area is I have no upload rights so I turn to where I can.
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| − | :As for that specific image, I would also want the name of the constellation to appear as well as the other nearby stars (if possible), but have some sort of focus on the particular star (or deep sky object) that is the topic of the article, either through a circle or an arrow, etc. I don't know if that actual program can do that, but I know it is easy enough for me in Photoshop (which is what I use to manipulate images in). --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 12:49, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | How's this version? [[File:RigelLocation.jpg|200px]] Higlighted star for the article; remainder in subdued fonts, with name of constellation in caps. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:07, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :That definitely looks better and in line with what I was suggesting. I may make the font for the others a little brightest (you can also use their bayer designation letter or number instead of full name for the other stars, while retaining the full name for the star in focus). What program are you using and how do you like it? I have thought on Winstar 2, curious how that looks. I have Stellarium, which is an excellent program for use in observations but not sure how well it is in making maps. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 13:23, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::I have the Microsoft WorldWide Telescope [http://www.freewarefiles.com/Microsoft-WorldWide-Telescope_program_41720.html], which has a combination of photos and vector graphics. For making the star maps that are needed here, all that matters is to hit the "print screen" key on the keyboard, paste it within Microsoft Paint or PhotoShop, and adjust accordingly [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:47, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | ::: Cool, well I am sure one of the programs will be good for me. However I will need a way to upload, as I am not allowed to. Also, on a related subject, could you approve the Milky Way pictures in the upload request page? Thanks. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 18:58, 3 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | Sorry for forgetting these: [[File:MilkyWay1.jpg|200px]][[File:MilkyWaySpitzer.jpg|200px]] [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:09, 16 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Thanks for uploading them :) --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 08:48, 17 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | == Image Uploads ==
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| − | I notice that you've almost always got a ton of image requests up - I've just gotten upload rights, so please, in the future, whenever you have a request, add it to my talk page as well as to our image upload request page, and I'll try and get on it immediately.
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| − | On an unrelated note, BMcP, I know we have had our differences on some issues, but I want to say that you've been a godsend to Conservapedia's astronomy articles. I look forward to more of your work! [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 02:42, 27 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | == Nova ==
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| − | I'd turn Nova into a disambiguation page, then move the tv series to [[NOVA (tv series)]] and the astronomical phenomenon to [[Nova (star)]]. [[User:Geo.plrd|Geoff Plourde]]<sup>[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]]</sup> 13:29, 28 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :I am not sure if I have the rights to do that, I am reasonably certain I do not have the rights to move the Nova TV page from "Nova" to "NOVA (tv series)". If I am wrong on that, please let me know. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 13:44, 28 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Oh wait, it dawned on me. Rewrite the [[Nova]] page to be the disambiguation and create a new [[NOVA (tv series)]] and [[Nova (star)]] page. Okay, yes I understand now, thanks. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 14:02, 28 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | [http://www.conservapedia.com/File:Ia_Supernova.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:IsolatedNeutronStar.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:NeutronStar.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:0211_diameter_ill.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:Aquilae_illustration.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:PIA09221.jpg][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:Sn94d_hiz_big.jpg] [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:07, 31 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :[http://www.conservapedia.com/File:Evolved_star_fusion_shells.png] [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:10, 31 December 2009 (EST)
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| − | :Thanks! --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 18:54, 2 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | == Repetition claim of time and location ==
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| − | The repetition claim that, for example, "the nebula is located around 6,500 light years away in the constellation of Taurus" would benefit from an explanation of the assumptions underlying the statement.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:06, 5 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | : You never answered this question about your claims. I'm honestly curious what your assumptions are underlying your edits.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:28, 16 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::What is the issue? That it is 6,500 ± 1,600 light years or that it is in Taurus? --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 11:53, 17 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | :::Well, first of all I don't recall seeing the "± 1,600" part in your edit. Second of all, what are your assumptions underlying that claim? How is that claim made, what observation and assumptions is it based on?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:50, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::::It is in the Astrometry section under distance of the Night Sky Template in the article. Distances of the nebula was done by using spectroscopy, which determines expansion velocity and comparing this with the nebula's angular expansion over time (using images over years[http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap011227.html]), using these we can calculate (within a margin) it's distance. The most precise measurement is around 6,300 light years, if you want, read the long technical explanation here.[http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1973PASP...85..579T]. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 14:03, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | :::::BMcP, I'm asking a simple question and am hoping for a straightforward answer in your own words. If you don't know the answer, hopefully you're willing to look at it now with an open mind. Your explanation above doesn't state the assumptions. What are the assumptions?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:15, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::::::I don't understand why you have any issue with this one astronomical object's distance. It isn't remarkable in that manner, many supernova remnants are much farther away. The only assumption I am making is those who are writing the original science, peer reviewed papers are not purposely fudging the data (and managed to trick those who reviewed the papers). However if I suspected that, I can conduct similar tests and see if I can duplicate their findings, or discover errors within them. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 14:38, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | :::::::I read the beginning of [http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1973PASP...85..579T] with great interest. Unfortunately, though it says, "The dynamical methods all depend on the fact that we can measure both proper motions, in arc seconds year<sup>-1</sup>, and radial velocities, in km sec<sup>-1</sup>," it doesn't go into detail on how we can do that. The arc seconds/year, of course, can just be observed - but how do we measure the radial velocities? (I think your answer would make a great addition to some astronomy article!) --[[User:EvanW|EvanW]] 14:51, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | (Unindented reply) Hello EvanW, I went and checked and we do not have a radial velocity page on this site. I will definitely have to put creating that page on my "to do" list since it is an important concept in astronomy. To answer your question though, in short, radial velocity speed at which an object is moving away from or toward an observer along the line of sight. We calculate this by observing displacement of spectral lines from their normal position in the observed object's spectra. Blueshifted if the object is moving towards us, redshifted if its moving away. The larger the blueshift or redshift, the larger the radial velocity. I hope that helps. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 15:17, 20 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | :BMcP, on this site when someone states something as true, he should be able to explain ''why'' he thinks it is true. It's not enough to say the equivalent of "my assumptions are the same as that of liberals and atheists and I don't even know what those assumptions are." If you have no idea what the basis for a claim is (other than the equivalent of "liberals say so"), then please find out first, reconsider it with an open mind, and only then consider posting it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:41, 2 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests#Astronomy Images|your images, sir]] [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 17:56, 9 January 2010 (EST)
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| − | == Old Earth / Young Earth ==
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| − | Do you have a gmail address we can chat on? There are some things I'd like to discuss with you. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 14:05, 3 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | :I am afraid I do not have gmail, I have AIM, ICQ, Skype, and Facebook for live communication. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:09, 3 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::Until we can discuss matters live, I would appreciate it if you could segregate any content which refers to the age or formation of astronomical phenomenon into sections which are clearly labeled at "old-earth views" or something like that, if you dispute the term evolutionist. I have tried to compromise with you by recognizing your views [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Metallicity&diff=prev&oldid=751447][http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Globular_cluster&diff=prev&oldid=751446], but you seem determined to present your beliefs as fact. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Metallicity&diff=next&oldid=751447][http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Globular_cluster&diff=next&oldid=751446]. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:16, 3 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | :::Then use one of those, BMcP and Jacob. Not all compromises can be worked out easily in public, due to the human trait of posturing. Communication is important, and to arrive at compromise, even email would work. --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 16:59, 3 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | I've made further compromise edits to [[open cluster]]. Please email me, BMcP, if the current compromise edits on [[metallicity|these]] [[globular cluster|three]] [[open cluster|articles]] are not to your liking. If you are fine with them, but wish to change "evolutionist beliefs" to some other phrase, that's fine, just nothing that implies these beliefs are more valid, more mainstream, or more supported by evidence than a Biblical literalist understanding. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:19, 5 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | :They are not. You have none of the chat programs I mentioned? --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 14:42, 6 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::Perhaps, BMcP, if you responded to Jacob's email, that would be a good beginning? Do I really need to be making such rudimentary suggestions to enable two people to converse? --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 15:05, 6 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | ::I have received an email this evening, from it you sound like you sent previous one, but it did not get through? It looks to be working now, I will respond to it. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 19:19, 6 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | :::The three main relevant views are (1) young earth, (2) old earth and (3) evolution. The latter is generally considered to be opposed to the first two. The split is between those who agree with the idea of Creation and those who are opposed to it.
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| − | :::At Conservapedia, writers are free to '''describe''' any viewpoint. Those who pretend that the atheistic or materialist views are true or obvious or scientific will find a cold reception here, especially if they try to justify this posture with [[Methodological naturalism]].
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| − | :::An encyclopedia's mission is to describe and summarize ideas and facts, in the hopes that readers can thereby gain knowledge. We do not debate with other writers, at least not in the course of writing an article.
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| − | :::I hope these general guidelines will serve as a gentle reminder of how we can all work together well. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 19:32, 6 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | I've created these templates ([[Template:Astronomy navbox]][[Template:Exo-Planets]][[Template:Stars]]) for use in various astronomy articles; I'm leaving them open for you to add to them or correct as you see fit. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:59, 4 February 2010 (EST)
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| − | Thanks for the help.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:11, 9 February 2010 (EST)
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