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Revision as of 20:57, June 19, 2010
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Barry Farber article
The first paragraph is fine, but I noticed that the last 6 paragraphs of the Barry Farber article are identical to the Wikipedia article of the same name, as of June 3, 2010. I'm currently busy with meetings and won't have time to research any changes for almost a week, but I wanted to bring it to your attention since it is a verbatim copy of the article text from Wikipedia, and I believe this sort of behavior should be avoided. If you're the user at Wikipedia who wrote that article, I apologize for the inconvenience, but please state so on the talk page. In Christ, Tyler Zoran Talk 07:28, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
| “ | What do you mean--plagiarism? Plagiarism means taking false personal credit for academic gain, which is not at issue here. Nobody is gaining any academic credit for their writing at CP. RJJensen 00:11, 17 January 2010 (EST) | ” |
- I think you should examine the text in greater detail, Tyler. There are only so many ways to say the same thing, and occasional duplication of phrases can occur, but I don't see they are identical. In any event, something like this should be handled discretely, rather than posted publicly as you did. Your doing so makes me suspect your judgment and goodwill. Dr. Jensen should know a thing or two about writing, and his statement stands as a good hallmark. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 08:11, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
- TK is right. Tzoran, you should realize that articles here are a work in progress. When an article is created, it is important that it is presentable. I draw from numerous sources, some of which may draw from Wikipedia. If you ever have a problem with an article, fix it yourself - complaining loudly until other people do your work for you is not an admirable trait. JacobBShout out! 16:28, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
Delete article
When you get a second, think you can delete State sovereignty, national union? I put a merge template up, but there really isn't much information to merge ... -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 20:17, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- Thanks for the heads up, JLatt, I'll take a look. JacobBShout out! 20:18, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- That was a good call. We're not big fans of uninformative stub articles. JacobBShout out! 20:19, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- Yeah, I try and throw a {{speedy}} or {{delete}} up anytime I see them. Most of them were created by parodists or trolls, anyways. -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 20:23, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- Thanks. But just be sure to check to see who created an article before nominating it for deletion.JacobBShout out! 20:27, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- Yeah, I try and throw a {{speedy}} or {{delete}} up anytime I see them. Most of them were created by parodists or trolls, anyways. -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 20:23, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
- That was a good call. We're not big fans of uninformative stub articles. JacobBShout out! 20:19, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
Promoting Multivariable Calculus
I wonder how we cam promote your marvelous course in Multivariable Calculus. Perhaps with a certificate of completion for successful students? Other ideas? --Andy Schlafly 12:43, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
- That's not a bad idea, but a certificate is more of a payout - I think the real payout will be when the students take their BC Calculus exams, which would give college credit for Calculus 1 and 2! How we should advertise it to students is a good question - I'll think on his, and I'll get back to you. I know Conservative is good at promoting things, I'll also shoot him an email.
- The course is just about ready to go, btw, I just have to re-organize some lectures and add some problems at the end. It's something I keep meaning to do, but it's easy to put on the back burner with summer courses and a full-time job. Maybe I can get it done tomorrow night? Yeah, I think I'll make that my Sunday evening project. JacobBShout out! 14:07, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
- Maybe we could set up a track for helping students skip a year of college with AP or CLEP credits, with tips on which colleges accept which credits. Saving a year's tuition can help students enormously.--Andy Schlafly 14:59, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
REPONSE TO MESSAGES
==The Nature of Greek and English==
Greetings,
There is no such thing as "the original English." I assume that you just made an accidental slip in writing that in your message to me. I hope that does not mean that you just took the KJV and rewrote it without reading Greek. That would not be a translation at all.
Are you saying that English is more precise than Greek? If so, what leads you to believe that?
How much Greek have you had? Perhaps you are an expert in math and physics. Though I took calculus and physics at Georgia Tech, I am not a major in those areas, and I would be wary of posting articles on those subjects. If Bible and Greek are not your majors, you ought to back off from translating the Bible. Pardon me if indeed you have a graduate degree in Greek.
How do you know that "concepts which are only vaguely expressed in Greek can be made crystal clear in English." If the Lord gave us passages which have studied ambiguity, who are we to change that? Greek is to theology as math is to science. Now don't tell me that concepts which are only vaguely expressed in math can be made crystal clear in English.
My colleague, you are in the process of producing a product which is not a translation at all, and which will bring Conservapedia into ridicule. Students of Greek will disparage the product as the product of uneducated hybris. The only service you can do to readers is to enable them to read God's word accurately, if you know Greek. Of course you could do them a service by giving them something to roll on the floor laughing at, including the entire Conservapedia. But I don't think you want to do that.
I am concerned about a distortion of God's word and also sincerely about your stance regarding translation.
If you are a born-again Christian and know the Lord Jesus as your only and sufficient Savior (no works), then please give my comments prayerful consideration.(Thunkful 15:19, 19 June 2010 (EDT))