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How exactly is visiting the troops fighting a war for our country part of a Muslim agenda? Did GWB reveal his own Muslim agenda when he did the same in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did Nixon reveal his, what, "Asian agenda" with his July 1969 visit to the troops in Vietnam? [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 11:03, 4 December 2010 (EST)
 
How exactly is visiting the troops fighting a war for our country part of a Muslim agenda? Did GWB reveal his own Muslim agenda when he did the same in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did Nixon reveal his, what, "Asian agenda" with his July 1969 visit to the troops in Vietnam? [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 11:03, 4 December 2010 (EST)
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The answer to your questions- yes yes and yes. A visit to Muslim country, where are troops are stationed, with plans to visit karzai is notible.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 11:31, 4 December 2010 (EST)
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:The answer to your questions- yes yes and yes. A visit to Muslim country, where are troops are stationed, with plans to visit Karzai is notable.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 11:31, 4 December 2010 (EST)
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: I think you also have to note the timing of this trip, and what its main purpose was. Obama went on a day when there were many important domestic issues going on (lots on the Congressional agenda, not to mention the dismal jobs report that came out). Additionally, his main purpose was to speak with Karzai, and that didn't happen only because of weather and technical difficulties. --[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 13:27, 4 December 2010 (EST)

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I seem to be missing something here since there are a few points I don't understand. First how is being sworn in using his full legal name part of pushing a Muslim agenda? Second how is putting more troops in Afghanistan to fight the Taliban (a fundamentalist Islamic government) a Muslim policy? WillB 13:22, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Using his full legal name when chastising others for using his name reeks of an agenda different than when he campaigned (worried about labeled Muslim before victory and unconcerned using his middle name after election). More troops to Afghanistan is a good thing in my view. I included it because it has to do with dealing with our Muslim enemies, so it is on his agenda. --Jpatt 13:29, 1 April 2009 (EDT)
Ok now I see were I went wrong. I was thinking from the introduction this article was going to focus on what Obama had done that could be seen as pro-Muslim and not include items that can be seen as anti-Muslim (more troops to fight an Islamic government) or that are only tangentially related to Islam (such as not using his middle name at first to try to avoid discrimination over possible Islamic ties in his heritage). Thanks for you quick response WillB 13:37, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

I have changed the opening paragraph so as not to reflect an anti or pro Muslim policy of the Administration's agenda.--Jpatt 14:23, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

I am confused as to how dispatching more troops to Afghanistan to fight the Islamist Taliban is a 'Muslim policy' exactly? What exaclty does 'Muslim policy' mean - the inference from most of this article is that President Obama's policies are in some way Islamic (such as using his middle, Arabic name)?

I disagree that the article is painting the policies as Islamic. Alright, the name thing is kind of pushing it, but that's part of a much broader debate across this site. As it stands, the examples all seem to be in chronological order, and many of them are (in my opinion, at least) genuine departures from the previous administration's method of dealing with the Muslim world. Time will tell whether they end up helping or hindering the "Contingency Operation." For now, I've modified the wording in the introduction to further clarify the article's intent.
And for the record, I think we should remove the point about Obama seeking to hire Muslim congressional staffers. The only story resembling this that I could find from a major news organization said that a collection of the 45 most qualified Muslim Americans had been sent to the White House for consideration as part of a joint effort between Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and The Muslim Congressional Staffers Association. A quote:
A White House aide confirmed that the administration had received the resumes, noting that it was not unusual for the White House to consider lists of job candidates suggested by constituent groups.
"We're still very much in the middle of the [hiring] process, even when it comes to very senior government employees. These things take time, and they're all based on finding the right fit," said the aide, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak publicly for the administration.[1]
It's looks like the administration has yet to take action on this. --SStaples 22:43, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
Create a 'Muslim agenda of the Bush Administration'=) --Jpatt 22:49, 2 April 2009 (EDT)


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Obama takes a surprise visit to the troops in Afghanistan.

How exactly is visiting the troops fighting a war for our country part of a Muslim agenda? Did GWB reveal his own Muslim agenda when he did the same in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did Nixon reveal his, what, "Asian agenda" with his July 1969 visit to the troops in Vietnam? Martyp 11:03, 4 December 2010 (EST)

The answer to your questions- yes yes and yes. A visit to Muslim country, where are troops are stationed, with plans to visit Karzai is notable.--Jpatt 11:31, 4 December 2010 (EST)
I think you also have to note the timing of this trip, and what its main purpose was. Obama went on a day when there were many important domestic issues going on (lots on the Congressional agenda, not to mention the dismal jobs report that came out). Additionally, his main purpose was to speak with Karzai, and that didn't happen only because of weather and technical difficulties. --TeacherEd 13:27, 4 December 2010 (EST)