Talk:Satan

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Just to be clear, in the Jewish tradition, Satan is an angel who serves as the adversary of Man. He never rebelled and he still serves God, acting as a sort of "prosecutor" while God sits as judge. The page should probably be altered to reflect the split. I have no idea how Islam views the Devil, though I think they call him "Iblis." I have edited the article to present this alternate view, for fairness.

If I recall correctly, Iblis was either an angel or a Djinn who was thrown out of Heaven for refusing to bow before Adam. (Some mystics have sympathy for him, on the grounds that it's wrong for an angel to bow before anyone but God, even if God orders them to.) Supposedly, he'll eventually repent and be allowed back into Heaven.

Satanists don't actually worship Satan. where as Satan, as refered to in the article, is a physical being and/or person, Satanists instead believe in a archetype of their beliefs, which they call satan. thus when satanists refer to satan, they are actually talking about themselves/others and the manifestation of their ideologies within, as opposed to the devil.

Oh, COME ON!

This article was just editted to "remove the athiest bias". Take a look at the changes.

"In the Christian tradition, he rebelled against God and was cast from Heaven to reign over Hell"

was changed to

He rebelled against God and was cast from Heaven to reign over Hell

This basically states that Christians are correct, and that it is not only in their tradition, but is fact. Fix this please.

"In the Jewish tradition, Satan faithfully serves God as a tester of the piety of men."

was changed to

"Jews believe that Satan faithfully serves God as a tester of the piety of men."

This means the same thing, but seems to have been changed to make it seem like the latest change was not to make Christians look 100% correct by adding consistency. Change the wording back or leave it, doesn't matter.

"Christian Views"

was changed to

"History and Goals"

This, once again, assumes that Christians are 100% correct. There are other views of Satan, not just the Christian view, so this should be changed back to stay accurate and unbiased.

"In Christianity, Satan's goal is to lead people away from the love of God"

was changed to

"Satan's goal is to lead people away from the love of God"

Once again, trying to show that the Christian view is the only view. Personally, that is not my view, and is therefore inaccurate to say it is the hisory and goals. Change it back to being a Christian idea.

"Some believe that Satan is able to possess and control living humans on Earth"

was changed to

"Satan is able to possess and control living humans on Earth"

Again, only some people believe that, I personally do not, change it back to keep unbiased.

"The notion of Satan, or an evil force, is noted in many if not all of the major world religions."

was changed to

"The notion of Satan, or an evil force, is noted in many if not all of the major world religions, which offers compelling evidence of his existence."

Yet again, trying to prove Satan's absolute existance, despite not everyone thinking so. This is a Christian view, and all these sections should be changed back to the unbiased state that they were in. It was not "athiest biased", it was simply showing the possibility of other views. Thank you. --ALFa 01:40, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

Nevermind, it had already been changed it back by the time I typed all this. Thanks. --ALFa 01:42, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

How come nobody ever listens to my side of the story? TheDevil 03:15, 5 April 2007 (EDT)