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::Sam, this is yet another case of you not adequately responding to that material I posted. For example, if you went to the page I cited: "...the ‘General Theory of Evolution’ (GTE). The evolutionist Gerald Kerkut defined this as ‘the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form.’1 This is a perfectly justifiable definition, and one that secular scientists would agree with—and this is what the dispute is about!".[http://creation.com/15-questions-responses-1#OOL] In short, it is part of the evolutionary paradigm. You can pretend so called "principles" are not part of a paradigm, but it is not convincing. The Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines a paradigm as "a '''philosophical''' and theoretical framework of a scientific school or discipline within which theories, laws, and generalizations and the experiments performed in support of them are formulated; broadly: a philosophical or theoretical framework of any kind." Evolutionary philosophy certainly includes so called evolutionary principles. That is why the origin of life is called "chemical evolution" by evolutionists. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:35, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

::Sam, this is yet another case of you not adequately responding to that material I posted. For example, if you went to the page I cited: "...the ‘General Theory of Evolution’ (GTE). The evolutionist Gerald Kerkut defined this as ‘the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form.’1 This is a perfectly justifiable definition, and one that secular scientists would agree with—and this is what the dispute is about!".[http://creation.com/15-questions-responses-1#OOL] In short, it is part of the evolutionary paradigm. You can pretend so called "principles" are not part of a paradigm, but it is not convincing. The Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines a paradigm as "a '''philosophical''' and theoretical framework of a scientific school or discipline within which theories, laws, and generalizations and the experiments performed in support of them are formulated; broadly: a philosophical or theoretical framework of any kind." Evolutionary philosophy certainly includes so called evolutionary principles. That is why the origin of life is called "chemical evolution" by evolutionists. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:35, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

:::But the "General Theory of Evolution" is the one developed by Darwin in the 1840s and it was replaced by the Modern Synthesis DECADES ago. Why argue against a theory that evolutionists abandoned in the 1930s? Tell them it doesn't answer the 15 questions and they're just going to shrug and say "Yeah, we know. So what?" As for chemical evolution, abiogenesis is only ONE way in which the term is used; it's also used to describe the cascade of elements formed by fusion inside stars, and quite clearly THAT isn't part of evolutionary theory either. By using non-standard definitions of what evolutionary theory is you're just opening yourself up to accusations of making strawman arguments. Abiogenesis isn't part of the theory of evolution and we shouldn't be claiming that it is. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 23:52, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

:::But the "General Theory of Evolution" is the one developed by Darwin in the 1840s and it was replaced by the Modern Synthesis DECADES ago. Why argue against a theory that evolutionists abandoned in the 1930s? Tell them it doesn't answer the 15 questions and they're just going to shrug and say "Yeah, we know. So what?" As for chemical evolution, abiogenesis is only ONE way in which the term is used; it's also used to describe the cascade of elements formed by fusion inside stars, and quite clearly THAT isn't part of evolutionary theory either. By using non-standard definitions of what evolutionary theory is you're just opening yourself up to accusations of making strawman arguments. Abiogenesis isn't part of the theory of evolution and we shouldn't be claiming that it is. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 23:52, 16 September 2011 (EDT)