Talk:Mystery:What Percentage Go To Hell?

Fun

Even if you go into Kabbalahistic or numerological arguments (the obvious answer is 666‰), the whole thing is amusingly silly - so it's a nice break from more serious business like translating the Bible correctly. AugustO 18:01, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Nothing "amusing" about this. There is a correct answer - a specific percentage. What is it?--Andy Schlafly 18:25, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Unknown to all but god.--SeanS 18:26, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The precise percentage may be unknown, but estimates are surely possible. For example, the percentage must be less than 100%, and more than 0%.--Andy Schlafly 18:27, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The number I gave (80 at best/most optimistic, and up to 90 at most pessimistic/realistic) tends ot be the one ive seen the most. I am questioning the includion of the percentage of US church goers, as that only includes people in the states.--SeanS 18:30, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Your insight about this is superb. I moved your edit higher in the table.--Andy Schlafly 18:38, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The "not-so-fun" part

Anyone who rejects the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ is doomed to hell. God is patient; people have plenty of chances and opportunities with which to accept Christ...but only while they're alive. After death is the judgement, and unfortunately there's going to be a huge percentage of people going there then going to Heaven. So, time to make the choice now. Karajou 18:33, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Assuming that the person so doomed has been informed that such a gift is available. What happens to those who live the whole of their lives without hearing the Gospel? AsherL 18:38, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Same thing. Still judged because they still fall short of the standards of god--SeanS 18:41, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

@AsherL, his page [1] could probably explain it better than I could. Karajou 18:46, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Interesting

This reminds me of a short story by Philip Jose Farmer in which a hallucinating priest sees Hell and decides there is no justice in such a fate, and he takes it upon himself to try and replace every single damned soul. He spends the night running about the city trying to spare Hell's denizens as much pain as he can.--CamilleT 18:23, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Perhaps the story is an attempt to downplay or deny Hell? Denying something doesn't change reality.--Andy Schlafly 18:26, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Trying to look past the Rayleigh limit

In Pathology we use microscopes a lot. The magnification power of light microscopes has not improved in the last 200 years, the reason for this is light diffraction, a bit off the point of the metaphor. Anyways back on point, there is a limit to how small an object we can see with a microscope, a ribosome for instance cannot be satisfactorily observed, it's just too small, too far from reach; if you increase the curvature of the lens you can make the ribosome appear large enough to see, but when you've got it that large the light diffraction will scatter the image and make it impossible to resolve. So when you have an answer at hand there is no way to tell if it's right or not and when you have the means to tell if you've got the right answer you've got nothing to test it on. You're trying to see behind a veil to a matter that is God's alone. Hopefully that made some sense, yesterday was a long night in the lab :( --DrDean 18:38, 20 September 2011 (EDT)