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Where is the "grand consensus" that one of the definitions of evolution does not include a leftist-atheist philosophy? The term "evolution" is not just used for strictly scientific concepts. Debates over evolution frequently discuss philosophical issues. That is true on both sides of the debate. Why is that? It is because people commonly use the term "evolution" to include philosophical beliefs. Maybe it would be better if everyone stuck to science, but that's just not the way it is. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 13:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
 
Where is the "grand consensus" that one of the definitions of evolution does not include a leftist-atheist philosophy? The term "evolution" is not just used for strictly scientific concepts. Debates over evolution frequently discuss philosophical issues. That is true on both sides of the debate. Why is that? It is because people commonly use the term "evolution" to include philosophical beliefs. Maybe it would be better if everyone stuck to science, but that's just not the way it is. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 13:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
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Actually, Roger, unless you decide to go off topic, that ''is'' the way it is.  We are speaking of the scientific theory of evolution, not some vague 3rd dictionary meaning.  To say otherwise is to either change the subject, or to try to [[Satan|deceive]].
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Actually, Roger, unless you decide to go off topic, that ''is'' the way it is.  We are speaking of the scientific theory of evolution, not some vague 3rd dictionary meaning.  To say otherwise is to either change the subject, or to try to [[Satan|deceive]].[[User:palmd001|PalMD]]<sup>[[User_talk:palmd001|talk]]</sup> 19:44, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
    
:When I get the chance, I'd like to do a bit of a cleanup on this article myself (if others don't beat me to it).  I'd probably reinstate the deleted bit, but not ''as a definition'', because I don't believe that it is.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:04, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:When I get the chance, I'd like to do a bit of a cleanup on this article myself (if others don't beat me to it).  I'd probably reinstate the deleted bit, but not ''as a definition'', because I don't believe that it is.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:04, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
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