Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative Sports Stars

Mr Schlafly: this is such a great insight. I'm really impressed by some of the powerful conservative thinking on CP. Do you think most sports players are conservative because being successful at sport means being competitive? i.e trying to do your best instead of being a liberal wuss and complaining about other people doing well. Is it OK to add conservatives in UK sports like rugby, cricket and football? HollyS 17:26, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Competitive sports is a meritocracy, which is a conservative value. Liberals prefer to "spread the wealth," which in sports would mean leveling the wins and losses.

Please do add legitimate examples from around the world.--Andy Schlafly 17:29, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I agree this is a fascinating page; enough so that I joined to help edit! Many athletes praise God in postgame interviews, etc., across all sports. I wonder if there's a way to work that into this page? LeRoyB 17:18, 28 November 2011 (EST)

Football

Hi Andy, For Gavin Peacock, you changed "football" to "soccer" but you've left the sport beside some other people's names (Tim Tebow and Kurt Warner - sorry, I've never heard of them) as plain "football". Does that mean American football? (like rugby league with padding). Shouldn't we change "football" for those guys to "American football" so as not to confuse people outside the USA? Otherwise, this is a great page - and I don't see any nit-picky socialists whining about any of their guys being top sports(wo)men! HollyS 18:07, 28 November 2011 (EST)

I disagree. It is pretty obvious that football is American football. What the Europeans call football is really called "Association football" or "soccer" for short. JamieM 20:36, 28 November 2011 (EST)

It's not obvious to people outside the USA. And I think you'll find that football was invented in England. (Except I expect archaeologists will find it came from France, like cricket...)HollyS 16:36, 29 November 2011 (EST)

I am for getting rid of the non-American stars. At a minimum, a separate section. Plus, we do need to some conservative women on this page. Who follows women's sports in the Olympics, WNBA, NCAA Basketball, Fast Pitch Softball?--Jpatt 23:25, 29 November 2011 (EST)

Track and Field

Would Al Oerter qualify? He was the greatest discus thrower ever, one of only two athletes to win their event at four conservative Olympics. He was critical of the "drug culture" that had overtaken sports when he finally retired (at an age much older than when most athletes retire). He criticized steroid use.--Andy Schlafly 00:21, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Sunday Sport

Can anyone clarify the actual significance of playing sport on a Sunday? Many people are included here for refusing to play on Sunday, and yet Lewis Hamilton is listed, when his sport take place exclusively on Sundays. --QPR 08:26, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Perhaps God has guided Ewen Murray to honour Him by observing the Sabbath, but Lewis Hamilton to glorify Him with outstanding achievements on the Sabbath. Questioning how the Lord has revealed himself to different people is awfully dangerous territory. Be humble enough to understand that He is working in different ways in different people with perfect wisdom. HollyS 19:30, 30 November 2011 (EST)