Debate:Does the media really have a liberal bias?

Yes

Except for FOX, which has a neocon bias. --Hojimachong^talk 18:17, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

There is not a doubt about it, the media is liberal. Yes you can say FOX tilts right, but they offer the liberal counterpoint. Yes, you can say talk radio is conservative. The vast majority of media TV, print is operated by, employs liberals that promote liberal points of view. These medias go out of the way to deny a conservative point of view, not balanced. Maybe why FOX and conservative radio have a big following. They are the only game in town. Tilt a political direction and bias to one point of view, are two different meanings.--jp 19:51, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

No

The media is not one monolithic entity plus Fox. Some media outlets take a more liberal perspective, some a more conservative one. Talk radio, for example, is overwhelmingly conservative. Murray 18:22, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

I think this should be rephrased as "does the MSM (Mainstream media) have a liberal bias?", because the big ones (CNN, MSNBC, BBC, etc.) are pretty liberal. Should I move the page?--Hojimachong^talk 18:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

The media has a bias toward making money. That is why even CNN is hiring people from Fox. Teresita 18:34, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Interesting and relevant link--go to www.jibjab.com and click on 'it's what we call the news' (high speed only) Czolgolz 08:45, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

Reporters and other people in the media are generally better educated than the dudes who get together in the bar to complain about stuff. Therefore, the media has a different, more educated point of view: they know more history, they know more science, they know more about other countries, they know you get what you pay for. The complaining dudes in the bar who think we should just eliminate taxes and bomb all the people who protest against US foreign policy are the majority of the public, but that doesn't make them right. Therefore, yes, the media has a bias, but it's not a liberal bias. It's a bias in favor of an intelligent, educated, well-informed point of view. --Madonna 04:57, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

I must say I do not share your faith in the media. In my experience they are often lazy and disinclined to do any but the most cursory research. --Horace 05:07, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

I never said the media are intelligent and well-informed. I just meant to say that they are more intelligent and better informed than the average complaining dude in the bar, or the average Conservapedia contributor, or the average voter. --Madonna 05:25, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Hey!, I'm the average Conservapedia contributor. --Horace 05:30, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

No. Reporters do tend to be liberal, but publishers tend to be conservative, so it all balances out. Editors generally try to have the media's opinion reflect the mainstream of their readership, because—obviously—the media are businesses and are trying to make money. Dpbsmith 22:42, 7 April 2007 (EDT)