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I'm confused about why my edit was reverted. TrueClarity 17:54, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I've made a section below. --KevinM 17:58, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Criticism section

I'm not sure if the editor is serious or not (the Bill Clinton edit makes me doubt it a bit), but I'm giving it the benefit of doubt.

I removed the above section. My point-by-point thoughts:

1. I can sorta-kinda see the "psychic powers" argument since some people were also up in arms about magic in Harry Potter.
2. It's been a while since I watched Pokemon, but I have no memories of homosexuality being in it. Source, if you're serious.
3. I also sorta-kinda see the "runaways" argument, but it's even weaker than the psychic-power one. Pokemon has been on for how many centuries now? If there was an increase in Pokemon-inspired runaway cases, there must be reliable sources mentioning them.

So, if the editor was serious, please give some sources instead of just handwaving that there might be something. --KevinM 17:58, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't remember the sources, but I have definitely seen arguments that the psychic powers and magic in Pokemon are negative influences. As for the homosexuality, what about the character James? He crossdresses regularly. In addition the new season apparently contains a character named Harley, who dresses in a skintight feminine outfit, uses feminine speech patterns in the original Japanese dialog, and makes passes at other male characters. TrueClarity 18:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

"I don't remember the sources" is a pretty bad way to start in an encyclopedia project. Considering that you apparently see crossdressing as an indicator of homosexuality, I'm really going to ask for reliable/notable sources. --KevinM 18:14, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I've never heard about the runaway thing, but the psychic powers and the cross-dressing criticisms are real. There's actually more criticisms like some pokemon being satanic in nature (and not just because they have psychic powers), the use of "magical" stones to make pokemons evolve, and evolution itself (these last two are unfounded if you ask me, but the criticism itself exists.) WilliamH 13:19, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

I've heard the psychic powers concern too, and a similar one about evolution being a core concept (albeit in a form that would make biologists very upset at the adaptation). But never any concern about homosexuality. Could it be a one-episode thing? I shall try google. - NewCrusader

Here we go - http://ccbcu.edu/bibliology/pagan.htm has a detailed analysis of the occult influences, and again refers to the James character (Who I gather is in the anime and movies, but not the games), and his recurring crossdressing. - NewCrusader

Looking at all these concerns, I am inclined to believe that is grounds for warning. Ultimatly there is no way to be sure unless a respected Conservapedia author actually buys and plays the games to completion, watches the anime and so forth - but all the descriptions of psychic powers, evolution, magic and so forth should at least give Christian parents reason to be cautious. Not to mention that this is basically a game where the player captures wild animals, imprisones them in tiny containers and forces them to fight in arenas. Sounds like the computer game version of cockfighting. I urge the restoration of the criticism section, with a rewrite for tidyness. - NewCrusader

Should I bother

Making redirects out of all 493 Pokémon names to this article? I really don't mind. It'll give me something to do since the dead-end pages and double redirects are under control. o.O Nate^{because people listen to what I say?} 19:24, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Too bad, because I've started to add such redirects. o.O Nate^{because people listen to what I say?} 18:34, 12 August 2008 (EDT)