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Debate:If there is no objective truth, then is the claim "there is no objective truth" also not an objective truth? (view source)
Revision as of 03:10, June 14, 2013
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So our initial premise indicates that there is no objective truth. For the follow up question, on one hand, we can assert that "there is no objective truth" is an objective truth, but this obviously violates our initial premise. If we interpret "there is no objective truth" as a subjective truth, on the other hand, it means that there can be an objective truth from (a) certain perspective(s), which would also violate our initial premise. I would contest that this is a pointless question simply because it is inherently paradoxical. If we intend to have a serious and intelligent debate on objectivity and/or subjectivity, why not just replace this debate topic with any of the much simpler, non-paradoxical alternatives: "Is truth objective or subjective?", "Is reality grounded in subjectivity?", "Is every truth universally true?", etc.? --[[User:JesseA|JesseA]] 00:09, 4 November 2012 (EDT)
So our initial premise indicates that there is no objective truth. For the follow up question, on one hand, we can assert that "there is no objective truth" is an objective truth, but this obviously violates our initial premise. If we interpret "there is no objective truth" as a subjective truth, on the other hand, it means that there can be an objective truth from (a) certain perspective(s), which would also violate our initial premise. I would contest that this is a pointless question simply because it is inherently paradoxical. If we intend to have a serious and intelligent debate on objectivity and/or subjectivity, why not just replace this debate topic with any of the much simpler, non-paradoxical alternatives: "Is truth objective or subjective?", "Is reality grounded in subjectivity?", "Is every truth universally true?", etc.? --[[User:JesseA|JesseA]] 00:09, 4 November 2012 (EDT)
I think this just goes to show how sound moral absolutism is. I get my morality from the Bible. That is the inherent contradiction hidden within moral relevism. The truth is the truth and that is that. I just see all this philosopy as something to make us think more about God, not some thing where any person can question the fabric of the universe. Wouldn't it be nice if we all just shut the door on this and lived our lives normally? What practical purpose does this all serve anyway? Does it bring us closer to god? No. Being close to god is the very definition of intelligence and these questions serve as a distraction from that. I never bothered to learn all this and I am a happy, functional Christian. I think philosophy should be more like a theological debate. God decides the truth and the truth is the truth. That's it. Finished. Done.
-[[User:Jand|Jand]]-