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Debate: Does the Magisterium have authority over the Bible, or does the Bible have authority over the Magisterium? (view source)
Revision as of 20:23, August 9, 2020
, 20:23, August 9, 2020→Refutation: 1 Peter 1:13 and 2 Peter 1:20 do not support Roman Catholic Magisterium
:All these actions were a bit presumptuous on the part of godly men, Moses, Abraham, and David. They were decisions made by men, acting in the flesh without the spirit of God. All had serious longterm consequences as the result of sin. Now we understand a bit more what Paul means by apt to teach, rightly dividing the word of truth. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 11:14, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
:All these actions were a bit presumptuous on the part of godly men, Moses, Abraham, and David. They were decisions made by men, acting in the flesh without the spirit of God. All had serious longterm consequences as the result of sin. Now we understand a bit more what Paul means by apt to teach, rightly dividing the word of truth. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 11:14, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
:I suppose under your teaching of scripture you could justify Moses striking the rock twice or David's sin with Bathsheba, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 11:26, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
:I suppose under your teaching of scripture you could justify Moses striking the rock twice or David's sin with Bathsheba, as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 11:26, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
::Look at the scriptures (below) on the authority of the church. <br> Rhetorical question to consider: What church has been completely free of immoral sinners among its leaders, or free of immoral sinners within their congregations, or free of accusations of hypocrisy and scandals? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:20, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
::Look at the scriptures on the authority of the church (''above section'': '''Contentions over Bible authority vs Church authority: What the Bible says about it'''). <br> Rhetorical question to consider: What church has been completely free of immoral sinners among its leaders, or free of immoral sinners within their congregations, or free of accusations of hypocrisy and scandals? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:20, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
====Proofs that condemnations of Catholic doctrine are false====
====Proofs that condemnations of Catholic doctrine are false====