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Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 14:02, August 27, 2020
, 14:02, August 27, 2020→Yes, the gates of hell have prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it committed the Great Apostasy, and therefore Jesus obviously either was powerless to keep his promise or he lied.
[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:16, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:16, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
===One mediator===
The [[Catechism of the Catholic Church]] in sum essentially reads,
The [[Catechism of the Catholic Church]] in sum essentially reads,
*''We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
*''We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
*'''CCC 969''' - "the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and '''Mediatrix."<ref>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm#969</ref>
*'''CCC 969''' - "the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and '''Mediatrix."<ref>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm#969</ref>
*'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
*'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
===Salvation by grace===
==No, the gates of hell have never prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it never committed [[apostasy]] from the faith, because Jesus remains with the church always to the end of the world, and the Spirit of truth is with the church for ever leading into all the truth as Jesus promised, and Jesus is God Who cannot lie.==
==No, the gates of hell have never prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it never committed [[apostasy]] from the faith, because Jesus remains with the church always to the end of the world, and the Spirit of truth is with the church for ever leading into all the truth as Jesus promised, and Jesus is God Who cannot lie.==