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Talk:Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 14:46, August 27, 2020
, 14:46, August 27, 2020→IndependentSkeptic
::"''By grace are ye saved''". Exactly! '''The ''Catechism'' says the same thing!''' <br> [http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'', Part Three, Section 1, Chapter 3, article 2: '''Grace and Justification'''] <br> You really ought to read it. The Bible backs it up completely. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 10:43, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
::"''By grace are ye saved''". Exactly! '''The ''Catechism'' says the same thing!''' <br> [http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'', Part Three, Section 1, Chapter 3, article 2: '''Grace and Justification'''] <br> You really ought to read it. The Bible backs it up completely. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 10:43, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
::No it doesn't. The Catechism says ''grace is not grace''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:46, 27 August 2020 (EDT)