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:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::(''Edit interrupted by Edit conflict'') Any further comments and rebuttals by RobSmith is going to be only repetitive '''[[spam]]''' adding nothing new to the discussion. He is a perfect example of someone who absolutely must have the '''[[Last wordism|Last Word]]'''. You have been warned. "'''''He'll be Back!'''''" We're done. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:20, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::(''Edit interrupted by Edit conflict'') Any further comments and rebuttals by RobSmith is going to be only repetitive '''[[spam]]''' adding nothing new to the discussion. He is a perfect example of someone who absolutely must have the '''[[Last wordism|Last Word]]'''. You have been warned. "'''''He'll be Back!'''''" We're done. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:20, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::We've debunked that bullrot a thousand times. You loose Christ when you take a crap after communion. So his righteousness has to be re-imputed again through the wash, rinse repeat cycle of sin, confession, communion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 15:04, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host ceases by dissolving to be the form of bread. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that appears to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine is to speak against Bible and against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever.--[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::We've debunked that bullrot a thousand times. You loose Christ when you take a crap after communion. So his righteousness has to be re-imputed again through the wash, rinse repeat cycle of sin, confession, communion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 15:04, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host ceases by dissolving to be the form of bread. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that appears to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine is to speak against the Bible and against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it.  None of this is biblical.  

:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it.  None of this is biblical.  

:::''Ye are of your father the devil.'' Repent.  

:::''Ye are of your father the devil.'' Repent.