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| | : Additional airtight proofs of deceit can be added. But partisan opinions will not be.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:16, 21 April 2007 (EDT) | | : Additional airtight proofs of deceit can be added. But partisan opinions will not be.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:16, 21 April 2007 (EDT) |
| − | | + | :: Silly me, I keep forgetting that all Liberals are, rather than being individual people with varying opinions on topics, mere appendages of a single world-spanning hivemind, and thus all are guilty for the misdeeds of every one. That's why all political statements made by anyone less Conservative than Pat Robertson have to be prefaced by a three-hour disclaimer renouncing every single evil deed committed by every liberal dating back to Ramses II, right? --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 22:53, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
| − | :: Silly me, I keep forgetting that all Liberals are, rather than being individual people with varying opinions on topics, mere appendages of a single world-spanning hivemind, and thus all are guilty for the misdeeds of every one. That's why all political statements made by anyone less Conservative than Pat Robertson have to be prefaced by a three-hour disclaimer renouncing every single evil deed committed by every liberal dating back to Ramses II, right? --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 22:53, 24 April 2007 (EDT) | + | ::Politicians Lie. It's pretty much in the job description these days. |
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| | ::I'll run with the Gulf of Tonkin/Johnson/Viet Nam and WMDs/Bush/Iraq lies. By the way, you have a typo at "after communist collapsed". I'd fix it but, well, the article is locked. [[User:Human|Human]] 18:04, 22 April 2007 (EDT) | | ::I'll run with the Gulf of Tonkin/Johnson/Viet Nam and WMDs/Bush/Iraq lies. By the way, you have a typo at "after communist collapsed". I'd fix it but, well, the article is locked. [[User:Human|Human]] 18:04, 22 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| | :What is deceitful about Wolfowitz's statement? [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:41, 24 April 2007 (EDT) | | :What is deceitful about Wolfowitz's statement? [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:41, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
| | :Also, Tillman could not be used like this, because it is not Tillman being accused of deceit. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:43, 24 April 2007 (EDT) | | :Also, Tillman could not be used like this, because it is not Tillman being accused of deceit. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:43, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
| | + | :: One of the reasons to go to war was "removal of troops from Saudi Arabia"[http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-05-30-wolfowitz-iraq_x.htm], however the lack of finding WMDs and the various indications that known faulty/unreliable intelligence was used to come to the WMD claim. That because of bureaucracy, the case for WMDs was the one offered forward to the American people. Not the actual reasons (whatever those may be). |
| | + | :: I have retitled the section on Pat Tillman. |
| | + | :: Still, all of these are in the Talk section. Is there merit for moving any of these to the article? --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 22:54, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| | === Paul Wolfowitz === | | === Paul Wolfowitz === |
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| | :These look like better examples of deceit than those listed in the article. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 10:41, 23 April 2007 (EDT) | | :These look like better examples of deceit than those listed in the article. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 10:41, 23 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| − | === Pat Tillman === | + | === Pentagon regarding Pat Tillman === |
| | There is growing evidence[http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/04/army_tillmanlynch_070424/] to a cover up and use of the death of Pat Tillman as pro war propoganda by making Pat Tillman a hero rather than someone who got killed in a friendly fire incident. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 21:58, 24 April 2007 (EDT) | | There is growing evidence[http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/04/army_tillmanlynch_070424/] to a cover up and use of the death of Pat Tillman as pro war propoganda by making Pat Tillman a hero rather than someone who got killed in a friendly fire incident. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 21:58, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| | == Can deceit be conservative? == | | == Can deceit be conservative? == |
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| | A few questions, mr. Schlafly: Are you a practicing psychologist? Can you say with absolute certainty that Freud's methods are useless? Do you have sources that can make this a verifiable fact? Or that can support your claim that Freud lied about his research? [[User:AKjeldsen|AKjeldsen]] 17:36, 22 April 2007 (EDT) | | A few questions, mr. Schlafly: Are you a practicing psychologist? Can you say with absolute certainty that Freud's methods are useless? Do you have sources that can make this a verifiable fact? Or that can support your claim that Freud lied about his research? [[User:AKjeldsen|AKjeldsen]] 17:36, 22 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| − | == And, of course, the page is locked. ==
| + | = And, of course, the page is locked. = |
| | + | Good thing, too, or some horrible America-Hater might quote Richard Nixon. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 22:49, 24 April 2007 (EDT) |
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| − | Good thing, too, or some horrible America-Hater might quote Richard Nixon. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 22:49, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
| + | = References = |
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