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:Actually, I'm asking about this passage: ''"make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control;"'' does "self control" mean not spamming talk page discussions with reams and ream of off-topic, [[narcissistic]] self interest, thereby disrespecting other editors? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 13:10, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:Actually, I'm asking about this passage: ''"make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control;"'' does "self control" mean not spamming talk page discussions with reams and ream of off-topic, [[narcissistic]] self interest, thereby disrespecting other editors? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 13:10, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
I'm sorry if I come across too bluntly (I guess years of service industry work and involvement in politics will do that to a person), but the main reason I don't like getting into debates with people of other denominations is I find that fellow Christians spend hours upon hours beating each other up over trivial differences of interpretation of God's word and unless I'm debating lost person whose doctrinal beliefs are completely off the rails (picture someone in a cult that identifies as "Christian" or one of those people who wear a cross but say things like "I don't need church, and Jesus drank wine so I can drink beer all day long") the in-fighting is just a distraction from what we really need to be doing, which is reaching the lost. Case in point, we could go on and on about grace vs. works, but is the disagreement really that great? I believe in Lordship Salvation, and that faith and repentance go hand and hand, repentance doesn't mean perfection, but it does mean one should put the bottle down, quit the job that requires them to lie to people, stop shoplifting from Winn-Dixie, etc. Can one truthfully say they put their faith in God and that he is the all powerful creator of the universe and continue these things they know he does not approve of, knowing that he could strike them dead for that if he wanted to? Another example of unnecessary bickering is when you take a hard-nosed Baptist vs. a hard-nosed follower of the Restoration Movement (Church of Christ, Christian Church, Campbellite, etc), the former will say that baptism is just a ritual, the latter will say it is required for salvation, and while the thief on the cross debunks any claim that one absolutely has to get baptized to be saved, can one truly be a saved person and not want to follow God's command to get baptized? Then you have issues like predestination, doctrines which are important, but not crucial to one's salvation. What I mean by that is if I get to Heaven and find out I was wrong about predestination, I can accept that, whereas if I wake up in Hell after death and see the 9/11 hijackers rejoicing in my torment because I was wrong and they were right, that's not okay (however, I'm convinced that the Muslim 9/11 perpetrators were NOT in the right). I hope this explanation helps. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 14:25, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:I really don't want to have a discussion with someone who says they are set in their ways and would never change their mind about something. And I didn't see you really addressing what I wrote. So continued discussion would be like talking to a brick wall. And I have no interest in doing that. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:47, September 16, 2023 (EDT)