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::What you say is that Nazism was unavoidable, it was the logical consequence of the 19th century. This lets all the people of the hook who helped the Nazis to power in the 1930; this lets all the people of the hook who imprisoned, tortured, and killed people during the Third Reich, and it lets all the people off who invaded other countries an bombed and burned their population in WWII. Because it was inevitable in your reasoning. This a very extreme position withing the already disputed Sonderweg theory, and generally rejected, even by other adherents of the Sonderweg theory. It is generally accepted that some important people had the choice to act differently, but they didn't, and if they had acted different, history would be different as well. [[User:Order]] 2 August, 12:26

::What you say is that Nazism was unavoidable, it was the logical consequence of the 19th century. This lets all the people of the hook who helped the Nazis to power in the 1930; this lets all the people of the hook who imprisoned, tortured, and killed people during the Third Reich, and it lets all the people off who invaded other countries an bombed and burned their population in WWII. Because it was inevitable in your reasoning. This a very extreme position withing the already disputed Sonderweg theory, and generally rejected, even by other adherents of the Sonderweg theory. It is generally accepted that some important people had the choice to act differently, but they didn't, and if they had acted different, history would be different as well. [[User:Order]] 2 August, 12:26

:::Not at all. What I say is worshipping at the alter of science, logic, and reason in lieu of God is was the progressive development of 19th century ''thought''.  And yes, destruction is unavoidable when secularism rejected the Jewish God, Jehovah, as a Jewish conspiracy, which is what led [[Marie Antointte]] to the gallows.

:::Not at all. What I am saying is worshipping at the altar of science, logic, and reason, in lieu of God, is what the progressive development of 19th century ''thought'' was.  And yes, destruction is unavoidable when secularism rejected the Jewish God, that is to say, Jehovah, as a Jewish conspiracy, which is what led [[Marie Antointte]] to the gallows.

:::And just because secular athiesm has unavoidable consequence does not mean at all that that those consequences are justified.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 18:50, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

:::And just because secular athiesm has unavoidable consequence does not mean at all that that those consequences are justified.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 18:50, 1 August 2007 (EDT)