::::::::::: That's begging the question, because according to those (us) creationists, there ''have been'' eyewitnesses, such as Adam, Noah, etc., and of course God. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:01, 1 December 2007 (EST)
::::::::::::And many biologists would claim to be witnesses to evolution, and geologists would claim to be witnesses to a 4.5 billion year old earth. How are you choosing who counts as a witness and who doesn't? --[[User:BillOhannity|BillOhannity]] 18:19, 1 December 2007 (EST)
::::::::::Not sure why you insists so much on eyewitnesses. It is known that they are particularly reliable sources of evidence. Either way, in empirical science nothing is absolute certain. People who believe that a scientific theory is absolute certain can be scientists. Only religion tries to give absolute certainties. You can't apply the mindset of religion to science. [[User:Order|Order]] 20:07, 1 December 2007 (EST)
==Tides and the earth-moon distance==