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: Check out [[Mary Stachowicz]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:41, 11 December 2007 (EST)
 
: Check out [[Mary Stachowicz]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:41, 11 December 2007 (EST)
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: HA! I knew it. Still, I really can't see this as being a hate crime. He didn't kill her because she was straight, he killed her because he had "issues". It looks as if he would have killer her if she continuously told him not to eat cheeseburgers (and inane example I know but I'm trying to prove a point.) Had he randomly pikced her out of a crowd as being staright and killed her for that, then it would be a hate crime--beyond any shadow of a doubt. But savagely murdering someone because she disagreed with his sexuality is indicative of something far more serious.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 09:28, 13 December 2007 (EST)
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: HA! I knew it. Still, I really can't see this as being a hate crime. He didn't kill her because she was straight, he killed her because he had "issues". It looks as if he would have killer her if she continuously told him not to eat cheeseburgers (and inane example I know but I'm trying to prove a point.) Had he randomly picked her out of a crowd as being staright and killed her for that, then it would be a hate crime--beyond any shadow of a doubt. But savagely murdering someone because she disagreed with his sexuality is indicative of something far more serious.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 09:28, 13 December 2007 (EST)
 
::So the issues didn't involve hate at all?  Did he kill her out of love?  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 09:44, 13 December 2007 (EST)
 
::So the issues didn't involve hate at all?  Did he kill her out of love?  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 09:44, 13 December 2007 (EST)
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:::That is asinine! Of course he hated her. But he hated ''her''. Her the person. Her the person that ragged on him all the time for being gay. Does her sexuality come into play? Yes. But inasmuch as it was one of the driving forces behind her nagging along with her 'religious devotion'. Had that not occured and he not be as "troubled" as he is, this would not have happened.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 10:01, 14 December 2007 (EST)
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