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:Cultwatch is a non-profit watchdog and counseling group. I'm not sure what disqualifies them from being considered reliable. I respect your position as an administrator, though, so if you deem it unsuitable for citing, I'll find something else. As for whether JW and LDS are cults, be careful not to conflate the two usages. Both churches meet the definition of "cult" in the Christian sense of the term. They're not under the "secular usage" section for a reason. [[User:SavedByGrace|SavedByGrace]] 21:28, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
:Cultwatch is a non-profit watchdog and counseling group. I'm not sure what disqualifies them from being considered reliable. I respect your position as an administrator, though, so if you deem it unsuitable for citing, I'll find something else. As for whether JW and LDS are cults, be careful not to conflate the two usages. Both churches meet the definition of "cult" in the Christian sense of the term. They're not under the "secular usage" section for a reason. [[User:SavedByGrace|SavedByGrace]] 21:28, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
::The usage of cult wasn't recently adopted by secularists. And this website is not here to provide "Christian definitions," but rather true and verifiable definitions. Why would Mormonism be considered a cult and Islam not? [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 21:35, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
::The usage of cult wasn't recently adopted by secularists. And this website is not here to provide "Christian definitions," but rather true and verifiable definitions. Why would Mormonism be considered a cult and Islam not? [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 21:35, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
:::The Conservapedia article on [[Kangaroo]] gives the Christian ''baramin'' definition in the first paragraph. Is this not a legitimate precedent? Also, as far as I can tell, Muslims do not pretend to be Christians. We would just say that they follow a false religion. [[User:SavedByGrace|SavedByGrace]] 21:46, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
:::The Conservapedia article on [[Kangaroo]] gives the Christian ''baramin'' definition in the first paragraph. Is this not a legitimate precedent? Also, as far as I can tell, Muslims do not pretend to be Christians. We would just say that they follow a false religion, not that they're cultists. [[User:SavedByGrace|SavedByGrace]] 21:46, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
== Nicene Creed ==
== Nicene Creed ==