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Revision as of 02:41, February 4, 2008
, 02:41, February 4, 2008→Recent quote: Replies to Barikada and Feebasfactor
::''How can I be scared of something that I don't believe happened?''
::''How can I be scared of something that I don't believe happened?''
::Aren't atheists often [[Atheism#Denials_That_Atheists_Exist|thought]] to be, deep down, afraid of God? [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:58, 3 February 2008 (EST)
::Aren't atheists often [[Atheism#Denials_That_Atheists_Exist|thought]] to be, deep down, afraid of God? [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:58, 3 February 2008 (EST)
::: I only reject claims of transitional fossils as unsubstantiated because that's what they have been so far. I should add that in this case I'm not meaning that no substantiation is provided, but that it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I'm not claiming that such claims are inherently unsubstantiatable; in theory, assuming that evolution is true, such claims ''could be'' substantiated. But so far they haven't been.
::: "''So any list of transitional fossils is mere circular reasoning?''": No, I made the claim of circular reasoning about the particular example I picked out of the list. There was no evidence that the particular example was intermediate, beyond the presumption that there ''must be'' an intermediate and this was the most likely candidate. Rather than start with the presumption that something evolved, you should start with the ''question'', "Did it evolve?", then see if there is evidence supporting that.
::: "''No, what you're doing is horribly misunderstanding how trees grow.''": I could say exactly the same thing about your understanding of how life came to be.
::: "''...that doesn't make a lick of sense''": I wondered if I wasn't clear. I don't believe that there are/were such things as evolutionary paths, so why would it concern me that they are not yet fully understood.
::: Feebasfactor, the claim is that deep down, atheists don't ''really'', fully, believe that there is no God. At least in some cases. See also [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/5560/ here]. I didn't actually look at your link to the atheism article, and I'm not necessarily defending how it might be worded. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:41, 3 February 2008 (EST)
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