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Talk:Falsifiability of evolution (view source)
Revision as of 10:47, March 14, 2008
, 10:47, March 14, 2008→Religion bending to science: Not-so-free thinkers.
The good news for freethinkers is that religion will forever be squirming under the glaring light of science, without so much as a scrap of evidence to justify its use of words like "law," "theory," or even "hypothesis" to describe its supernatural explanations for natural but unexplainable phenomena. [[User:Bicycle|Bicycle]] 20:45, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
The good news for freethinkers is that religion will forever be squirming under the glaring light of science, without so much as a scrap of evidence to justify its use of words like "law," "theory," or even "hypothesis" to describe its supernatural explanations for natural but unexplainable phenomena. [[User:Bicycle|Bicycle]] 20:45, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
: Your example about Joe is interesting, but I don't see how it meaningfully applies to evolution.
: As for the rest of your post...
: "''...religion conceded the point of natural selection to science, such as it has, only after it was left with no other choice.''": On the contrary, natural selection was first described by a creationist. So there's been no "concession" there.
: "''...scientific advancement can be marked by noting the religious concessions to discoveries which have refuted its claims.''": I'd love to know what you are talking about here. Most early scientific advancement was done ''within Christianity''. And I know of nothing since that fits your description. The only things that "science" has "discovered" that ''some'' religious groups have conceded to are things like evolution, which is not a ''discovery'' but a ''explanation'' of how we came to be.
: "''In effect, religion is continuously "evolving" to maintain its privileged position in society ...''": Biblical Christianity is not "evolving". It stays true to the Bible, which doesn't change.
: "''...it cannot hope to maintain that position while standing by its previous claims which are now openly mocked by society''": The sections of Christianity that are falling by the wayside are the sections that have compromised with the atheistic worldview. The sections standing firm against that are growing. And Christianity has been mocked for centuries, yet it is still here and arguably as strong as ever.
: "''Before secularism, there was no need to concede, as religion held all the power and could simply burn the books and, if need be, the bodies of scientists who threatened that societal pride of place.''": Yet there was very little of that going on, particularly with the Church encouraging and facilitating science.
: "''The good news for freethinkers is that religion will forever be squirming under the glaring light of science, without so much as a scrap of evidence to justify its use of words like "law," "theory," or even "hypothesis" to describe its supernatural explanations for natural but unexplainable phenomena''": You wish! Christianity has nothing to fear from true science, only from atheistic views such as evolution promoted under the guise of being science. And creationists have just as much evidence as evolutionists: the difference is in how that evidence is interpreted. Creationists are free to see whether supernatural design or natural forces formed something. Atheists, if they are to remain atheists, are not free (so much for "''free''thinkers"!) to consider the first possibility, unnecessarily restricting themselves to the second, and thereby closing their minds to even considering a possible explanation.
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:47, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
== Evolution Is False ==
== Evolution Is False ==