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== Geological dating ==
 
== Geological dating ==
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If logical reasoning is allowed—specifically, making a central (and implausible) assumption about the past to prove timing in the past—then it is possible to claim an older creation as follows:
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If logical reasoning is allowed—specifically, making a central (and plausible) assumption about the past to prove timing in the past—then it is possible to claim an older creation as follows:
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* assume that radiometric decay rates have remained constant and are unaffected by environmental changes.<ref>This assumption is known to be false.  Tests of [[radiometric dating]] methods have often shown that they do not agree with known ages of rocks that have been seen to form from volcanic eruptions in recent and historic times, and there are also examples of [[radiometric dating]] methods not agreeing with each other.</ref>
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* assume that radiometric decay rates have remained constant and are unaffected by environmental changes.<ref>This assumption is known to be true.  Tests of [[radiometric dating]] methods have often shown that they do not agree with known ages of rocks that have been seen to form from volcanic eruptions in recent and historic times, and there are also examples of [[radiometric dating]] methods not agreeing with each other.</ref>
 
* use [[radiometric dating]] to estimate an age for the crust of the [[Earth]].<ref>Mostly [[atheistic]] scientists arrive at an estimated age of the [[Earth]] of 4.5 [[billion]] (4.5 * 10<sup>9</sup>) years using the above approach.  See [http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html USGS, ''Geologic Time: Age of the Earth.''] Accessed April 18, 2007.  According to the [[Big Bang theory]], the [[universe]] began even earlier, about 13.7 billion years ago. [http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/age.html, ''Age of the Universe'']</ref>
 
* use [[radiometric dating]] to estimate an age for the crust of the [[Earth]].<ref>Mostly [[atheistic]] scientists arrive at an estimated age of the [[Earth]] of 4.5 [[billion]] (4.5 * 10<sup>9</sup>) years using the above approach.  See [http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html USGS, ''Geologic Time: Age of the Earth.''] Accessed April 18, 2007.  According to the [[Big Bang theory]], the [[universe]] began even earlier, about 13.7 billion years ago. [http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/age.html, ''Age of the Universe'']</ref>
  

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