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But so many sources translate this word as a census, so does anybody know of a reason for this? If so, let me know here and we can discuss and possibly change it. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 18:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But so many sources translate this word as a census, so does anybody know of a reason for this? If so, let me know here and we can discuss and possibly change it. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 18:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
== 2:34-35 ==
Was skimming through the translation, and happened to notice these two verses. The construction here can be thought of as a cause-consequence-ultimate purpose clause (or a dual level purpose clause). Quite often, when a construction has both "eis" and "hina/hopos" in it, the clause after the "eis" indicates the immediate consequence (which may or may not be intended, usually determined by context), and the clause after the "hina/hopos" indicates the ultimate intended purpose. So the structure here is as follows:
Cause:
(A) The child will cause the fall and rise of many Israelites
Immediate Consequence:
(1B) Many will dispute that He is who He says He is
(2B) Mary will be deeply grieved
Ultimate Purpose"
(C) to reveal the inner motivations of many people
In this case, it is pretty clear that the 2 immediate consequences (people hating Jesus and Mary getting hurt) are not intended, but they are completely unavoidable. The ultimate purpose of His actions, however, both in the current generation, and in all generations to come, is to reveal the innermost motivations of many people (frankly, I think this means both good and evil motivations, but that is another issue).
I think the translation could probably be slightly adjusted to demonstrate this construction a little better.
Just a thought. God bless. [[User:MBack|Michael Back]] 1:40, 8 November 2009 (EDT)
==Luke 3:1==
==Luke 3:1==