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If we have to qualify one of our example's with the words "if true," does it really deserve to be in this section? Such examples are hardly illustrative. Can we stick to examples that are generally agreed upon as true?--[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] <sub>[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]</sub> 20:18, 28 November 2009 (EST)
If we have to qualify one of our example's with the words "if true," does it really deserve to be in this section? Such examples are hardly illustrative. Can we stick to examples that are generally agreed upon as true?--[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] <sub>[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]</sub> 20:18, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:Unfortunately, many examples of deceit are so widespread that there is no consensus that they ARE deceit - global warming, for example. Given the evidence for Obama being a muslim, I think it certainly belongs here. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 20:25, 28 November 2009 (EST)